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So, what's up with Buffalo dyno days?



so who made that program? i'd buy it if the password unlocked it (as far as me
being able to edit it / add my own stuff to it).
Al

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason" <jason@scirocco.org>
To: "Josh Able" <mkii@nycap.rr.com>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: So, what's up with Buffalo dyno days?


> At 03:18 PM 10/21/2002, Josh Able wrote:
> >LOL, ya I've played with a set up that gave me numbers like that once,
> >pretty wild!
> >
> >the only weak link is that it doesn't take into consideration that the HP is
> >significantly lower than that below 4000 rpms.
>
> Yeah -- you played with those *other* programs. :)
> I played with the one *I* wrote -- that uses your actual dyno numbers from
> idle to redline.
>
> As a nice comparison, I plugged in my middle dyno run (which should be
> about stock output) in with the gear ratios, aerodynamic stuff, and weight
> of the GTI VR6 that Car & Driver tested... and was within 0.2s and 1mph on
> all of the acceleration measurements, including top-gear acceleration and
> top-speed.
>
> It's not one of them "fun to play with" programs that guess a whole torque
> curve based on the peak value -- it uses your actual torque curve.  In your
> case, I do not know your gear ratios, so I used the VR6 transmission's
> ratios...  But make no mistake -- this is not a little toy's guess, this is
> what will happen in the real world.  (The 0-60 is a "street start" by the
> way, not a dump-clutch.)
>
> The program sounds interesting, huh?  Too bad none of you bought it when I
> offered it to support .org!! :(
>          http://www.scirocco16v.org/vdc2001/
>
> Jason
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> >Josh Able
> >www.JsHouseOfEuro.com
> >"If you're already walking on thin ice, you might as well dance." -Gil
> >Atkinson
> >
> >*GERMANY 2003 - a dub odyssey*
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Jason" <jason@scirocco.org>
> >To: "Josh Able" <mkii@nycap.rr.com>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> >Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 3:04 PM
> >Subject: Re: So, what's up with Buffalo dyno days?
> >
> >
> > > Josh,
> > >          By the way, I plugged your chart into my little application to
> > > measure some stuff:
> > >
> > > 0-60            5.17s
> > > 0-100           11.19s
> > > 1/4             13.68 @ 111.9 mph
> > > Top Speed       157mph
> > >
> > > Warning:  I recommend never, EVER trying to attain that speed in a
> > > Scirocco.  :)
> > >
> > > Jason
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > At 02:23 PM 10/21/2002, Josh Able wrote:
> > > >:P
> > > >
> > > >the numbers were actually higher than I figured they would be. I changed
> >out
> > > >my stock 4.0bar fpr which was giving the car way to much gas down low,
> >for a
> > > >3.0bar fpr. I noticed more gains down low, but I also knew I lost a good
> > > >chunk near the top. I was guessing about 245 at the wheels with 17 pounds
> > > >boost, instead Im at 258hp with a 10lb-ft torque improvement. Of course
> >this
> > > >is with two different brands of dynos..but..
> > > >
> > > >sadly that BMW has the power a bit more evenly spread out in the power
> >band
> > > >:P
> > > >
> > > >SDS might just help me out a tad in this!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >As for Jason's VR6, that car produced damn nice numbers, and then with
> >just
> > > >changing the intake to get 19 more!!
> > > >
> > > >Makes it even more impressive that Bens 16v mkI can hang with Jason with
> > > >ease. :D
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Josh Able
> > > >www.JsHouseOfEuro.com
> > > >"If you're already walking on thin ice, you might as well dance." -Gil
> > > >Atkinson
> > > >
> > > >*GERMANY 2003 - a dub odyssey*
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Jason" <jason@scirocco.org>
> > > >To: <jdbubb@ix.netcom.com>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > > >Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 1:58 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: So, what's up with Buffalo dyno days?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > At 01:03 PM 10/21/2002, Dan Bubb wrote:
> > > > > >Any interesting results??
> > > > >
> > > > > Absolutely!  I'm surprised no one has posted yet, but I guess we're
> >all
> > > > > trying to get back to work etc...
> > > > >
> > > > > Two very noteworthy things happened (lesser of the two first);
> > > > >
> > > > > 1.  My VR6 gained 19hp over the baseline run with the mere addition of
> >a
> > > > > Neuspeed P-Flo intake.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2.  Josh Able's 1.8T Scirocco put (are you sitting?) 258hp and
> >257lb-ft of
> > > > > torque to the wheels.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm going to repeat that because it sounds vaguely impressive:
> > > > >
> > > > >          2500lb car.
> > > > >          258 horsepower to the wheels.
> > > > >          257 ft-lb of torque to the wheels.
> > > > >
> > > > > Using the old 15% estimate, that would be around 300hp at the motor.
> > > > >
> > > > > That's a power to weight ratio of 8.3 lb/hp.  The 4.9-second 0-60
> >screamer
> > > > > BMW E46 M3 has a power-to-weight ratio (333hp, 3400lb) of 10.2:1.
> > > > >
> > > > > el sicko, no?
> > > > >
> > > > > Jason
> > > > >
> > > > >
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