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JH 8v knocks when cold
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<P>An excellent method for isolating the bad rod/wristpin is to pull the plug wires off on at a time until the offending noise changes or stops. It's probably a good idea to pull the wires with the engine off and lightly set them back on the plugs before start-up.</P>
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<DIV></DIV>Knock, wrist pins/piston slap. ticking, lifters/oil pump. i doubt that it is an oil pump. usually this exhibits itself when the engine is warm.
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<DIV></DIV>>From: Robbie Cotner <ROBW_Z@YAHOO.COM>
<DIV></DIV>>To: ATS - Patrick Bureau <TXROCCO@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
<DIV></DIV>>CC: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: RE: JH 8v knocks when cold
<DIV></DIV>>Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 22:05:06 -0800 (PST)
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<DIV></DIV>>The knock is just the sound really, it doesn't shake the engine.
<DIV></DIV>>It's not very loud, but definately audible. Maybe my pump is going
<DIV></DIV>>bad? I thought I had my winter oil set-up pretty good; Mobil-1 full
<DIV></DIV>>synthetic 10w-30 and a NAPA Gold oil filter. If this indicates that
<DIV></DIV>>my wrist pins are going bad or something, I'm going to cry-
<DIV></DIV>>Rob
<DIV></DIV>> ATS - Patrick Bureau <TXROCCO@SBCGLOBAL.NET>wrote:well what I am
<DIV></DIV>>saying is that the clattering of valves on a cold engine is normal
<DIV></DIV>>until the oil comes up to the top (your engine is not hydraulic
<DIV></DIV>>valves) yes, but are we talking about KNOCK that shakes the engine,
<DIV></DIV>>then no.. which is it?
<DIV></DIV>>ATS - Patrick Bureau - txrocco@sbcglobal.net
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<DIV></DIV>>-----Original Message-----
<DIV></DIV>>From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org
<DIV></DIV>>[mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Robbie Cotner
<DIV></DIV>>Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:59 AM
<DIV></DIV>>To: ATS - Patrick Bureau
<DIV></DIV>>Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: RE: JH 8v knocks when cold
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<DIV></DIV>>OK so you're telling me my cold morning knock is normal I hope? I'm
<DIV></DIV>>just very anal since I built this engine myself, and in my case that
<DIV></DIV>>does not make me rest easy:)
<DIV></DIV>>Rob
<DIV></DIV>> ATS - Patrick Bureau <TXROCCO@SBCGLOBAL.NET>wrote: a few
<DIV></DIV>>questions, do you have a block heater or oil pan heater on this girl
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<DIV></DIV>>if not it could be the bearing of the valves complaining for the oil
<DIV></DIV>>is take
<DIV></DIV>>its time to get there., an oil pan heater or block heater will keep
<DIV></DIV>>the oil
<DIV></DIV>>ay 70'f and will reduce the "cold morning knock" in my humble
<DIV></DIV>>experiences
<DIV></DIV>>with Canadian 8 months out of the year.
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<DIV></DIV>>ATS - Patrick Bureau - txrocco@sbcglobal.net
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<DIV></DIV>>-----Original Message-----
<DIV></DIV>>From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org
<DIV></DIV>>[mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org]On
<DIV></DIV>>Behalf Of Robbie Cotner
<DIV></DIV>>Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 3:28 AM
<DIV></DIV>>To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: JH 8v knocks when cold
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<DIV></DIV>>Hey all,
<DIV></DIV>>now that temps are dipping well below 20F here, I have noticed in
<DIV></DIV>>the
<DIV></DIV>>morning when I start up my '84(stock 1.8 JH with 8k on rebuild), it
<DIV></DIV>>sounds
<DIV></DIV>>as though it is knocking. Not like an insane erratic knock, but a
<DIV></DIV>>constant
<DIV></DIV>>knock-knock-knock-knock, well you get the idea. What's going on? The
<DIV></DIV>>sound
<DIV></DIV>>goes away once warm. I'm running Mobil-1 synthetic 10w-30 if that
<DIV></DIV>>has
<DIV></DIV>>anything to do with anything. Thanks to any who can provide even the
<DIV></DIV>>slightest info/help on this-
<DIV></DIV>>Rob
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