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that must have been the one you are talking about. It was back in 1992, =
i don't remember the color, i think it was silver. Its owner worked for =
MB, some ex-Greek navy seal, crazy MF, , no need to do 240 Kph from =
Kalrsuhe to Heidelbergh. the seats were nice, but I couldn't find any =
extra seatbelts!!!! there was a Euro 190 16V in my area couple yrs ago, =
some german guy had brought it over since he was working in US. But i =
have not seen it lately...

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Jason=20
  To: DEMETRIS RAPTIS ; scirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
  Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 3:20 PM
  Subject: Re:insane speed in german cars


  At 02:45 PM 11/7/2002, DEMETRIS  RAPTIS wrote:

    I witnessed a MB 190 2.4-16 in germany doing 240 Kph or about 144 =
mph !!! i couldn't believe it, and  it was only 4 speed stick. the damn =
thing didn't even have a limiter, it was redlining. Ridding in the back =
seat i was scared , i could feel the ABS modulating the barking when =
idiots were cutting us off.

  There is no such thing as a 2.4-16, it was either a 2.3-16 or 2.5-16, =
the latter of which was 1988+ Europe only.  =20
  It was a 5-speed, actually, but it had a dogleg first gear, i.e. down =
below where reverse is on our cars.  Gears 2 through 5 made up the rest =
of the H pattern.  5th gear is down right, which is why you would have =
thought it was only in 4th.

  MB imported less than 2000 2.3-16s in the US in 1985 and 1986.  This =
was the car that made BMW make the M3.  It was a 2.3-liter bottom end =
from the regular 190E 2.3, but with a Cosworth 16V head.  It did 0-60 in =
about 7.7s and topped out at a tick over 135 in stock US trim.  The =
Euro-spec 2.5-16s hit 235km/h or 146mph...

  Jason


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>that must have been the one you are =
talking about.=20
It was back in 1992, i don't remember the color, i think it was silver. =
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owner worked for MB, some ex-Greek navy seal, crazy MF, , no need to do =
240 Kph=20
from Kalrsuhe to Heidelbergh. the seats were nice, but I couldn't find =
any extra=20
seatbelts!!!! there was a Euro 190 16V in my area couple yrs ago, some =
german=20
guy had brought it over since he was working in US. But i have not seen =
it=20
lately...</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=3Djason@scirocco.org =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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  href=3D"mailto:raver@prodigy.net";>DEMETRIS RAPTIS</A> ; <A=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 07, =
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  cars</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><BR></DIV>At 02:45 PM =
11/7/2002,=20
  DEMETRIS&nbsp; RAPTIS wrote:<BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite cite type=3D"cite"><FONT face=3Darial =
size=3D2>I witnessed=20
    a MB 190 2.4-16 in germany doing 240 Kph or about 144 mph !!! i =
couldn't=20
    believe it, and&nbsp; it was only 4 speed stick. the damn thing =
didn't even=20
    have a limiter, it was redlining. Ridding in the back seat i was =
scared , i=20
    could feel the ABS modulating the barking when idiots were cutting =
us=20
    off.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=3Darial><BR>There is no such =
thing as a=20
  2.4-16, it was either a 2.3-16 or 2.5-16, the latter of which was =
1988+ Europe=20
  only.&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>It was a 5-speed, actually, but it had a dogleg =
first=20
  gear, i.e. down below where reverse is on our cars.&nbsp; Gears 2 =
through 5=20
  made up the rest of the H pattern.&nbsp; 5th gear is down right, which =
is why=20
  you would have thought it was only in 4th.<BR><BR>MB imported less =
than 2000=20
  2.3-16s in the US in 1985 and 1986.&nbsp; This was the car that made =
BMW make=20
  the M3.&nbsp; It was a 2.3-liter bottom end from the regular 190E 2.3, =
but=20
  with a Cosworth 16V head.&nbsp; It did 0-60 in about 7.7s and topped =
out at a=20
  tick over 135 in stock US trim.&nbsp; The Euro-spec 2.5-16s hit =
235km/h or=20
  146mph...<BR><BR>Jason<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></BODY></HTML>

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