transmission recap (long)

[soltwede@privateI.com (Night Shadow)]

So Ron...you up for a quaife install/rebuild of a 2H with .75 5th at
Cincy? 

Eric
(thinkin he might have to drag *3* trannies to cincy...)



On Sat, 11 May 2002, Ron Pieper wrote:

> One slight correction, we replaced 1, 2, and 3 synchros.  
> 
> Finding a cracked brass cone behind a driveaxle flange is actually
> pretty common.  I do agree the Peloquin kit is nice.
> 
> The rivet heads had smeared some aluminum from the case over the pinion
> shaft race, and the bearing was shot.  Getting the race out was almost
> impossible - I had to end up grinding the sucker out (grrr).  It's the
> first time that the gas grill trick didn't work, but those were
> extenuating circumstances!
> 
> Given that and a few re-dos (oops did we adjust 5th gear?, etc.), it
> was not my easiest rebuild!  But I'm confident that all will be OK, and
> I'll sure take care of Wes if something goes wrong!
> 
> BTW list, if you ever have the chance to beg Wes's help, do it!  He's
> fantastic to work with.  Calm, competent, and bright.
> 
> Later, 
> 
> Ron
> 
> --- Wes Brockway <KYWes@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > This is long but hoped to give info to others who aren't familiar
> > with this information.
> > 
> > Thanks to the expert help of Cheapass Ron I got my AGB tranny rebuilt
> > last Monday but it was an all day job. I think I slowed Ron down. My
> > troubles were hard shifting but no grinding noise and no slipping out
> > of gear.
> > 
> > As we opened the tranny we found the gears, bearings, and synchros in
> > good condition. However when we looked at the differential we
> > discovered that I was deep into the SMS syndrome. Two rivet heads had
> > already come off. We found one and I guess the other got ground up.
> > We also discovered that one gear on the ring gear had been broken
> > off. Pushrod looked ok, just a little worn. The biggest concern was
> > that the SMS had ground the case around the pinion gear race and had
> > made cuts into the case around the differential. As it looked I was
> > not far away from a total destruction of my tranny. Luckily I had
> > already planned on repairing the SMS and ordered a bolt kit from
> > Peter and a Peloquin  80% LSD kit. Oh, we also found one of the
> > factory slip rings in the differential was broken. There was all
> > kinds of metal in the case requiring a good cleaning. The magnet,
> > which I had no idea the tranny had, was covered with metal fragments.
> > The metal was so pervasive that the detent dogs on the fifth gear (we
> > didn't check the others) were filled with metal.
> > 
> > I should also note that I had already found that the rear tranny
> > mount was sheared in two and had replaced it. After removing the
> > tranny I found the driver's side mount was cracked. I've not had time
> > to check the right side yet but I pre-purchased one figuring it too
> > is bad. My local machine shop pressed in the left mount for the
> > transaxle for $16.00. The mounts came from Potterman.
> > 
> > We went ahead and replaced the 2,3,4 sychros and of course the bolt
> > kit and LSD kit. The Peloquin LSD kit is one nice piece of work. Very
> > well done with excellent instructions and definately a better job
> > than VW did.
> > 
> > I've yet to get the tranny put in but am looking forward to sweet
> > running shifts. I've no idea when the rivets first went or how long I
> > drove it with two off. But much longer and I'd have had a hole in the
> > case.
> > 
> > I have already replaced the shifter bushings. New motor mounts should
> > help. The transmission work is doable in one's garage but there are
> > homemade speciality tools needed and a couple of tricks. If I had
> > tried to do this without Ron's help I'd have probably given up. The
> > two main tools Ron had made were one to split the case consisted of
> > two pieces of angle iron. On drilled and tapped for a bolt that
> > pushes against the other angle iron laying  on the main shaft bolt.
> > Two other holes were drilled to run two fifth gear housing bolts
> > through as guides. 
> > 
> > The other tool is a gear puller with longer pieces made so as to
> > reach all the way to the end of the main shaft gears. The hooks are
> > put under the gears and the pulling bolt is placed against the
> > mainshaft bolt hole.
> > 
> > Other tools are pretty standard.
> > 
> > Some things I've learned about hard shifting.
> > 
> > Check all the motor mounts and replace as necessary.
> > Replace the shift bushing, ball and align the shifter.
> > If the transmission hasn't been rebuilt then do it as soon as
> > possible. I almost lost my second tranny to SMS.
> > 
> 
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Eric
Northglenn, CO

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