my clutch problem: the mechanics input

[jkarlsso@metabolex.com (Jonas K.)]

On 5/1/02 9:15 PM, "Chris DeLong" <green536@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Ok well lets try this guys before we send him out to take his tranny off
> again.
> 
> I dont remember who it was with the original problem but go out and check
> your tranny code. If it is a tranny with the larger mainshaft then it would
> be VERY difficult to install an 8v disk and then slap the tranny back in. At
> least that way you can eliminate one factor easily.

Tony M. is the one with the original problem. He stated that the tranny is
from an 84 8v donor, but checking the code is probably a good idea.

> Does he have the receipt for the new disc? If so then maybe he could check
> the part number to see if he bought the right one.

Well, the original 16v motor siezed up, and the clutch on it was reused on a
rebuilt 16v motor, so I don't think there's any reciept around. Unless the
original 16v had it's tranny/clutch swapped to 8v spec at an earlier time,
the ASS-umption is that it's a 16v disc.

Tony, check the tranny codes of the tranny in there, and on the one that was
mated to the siezed up 16v motor (if it's still around). That should settle
it. 

The puzzle really fits. Grinding noises when clutch pedal is pressed, but
_only_ when gear is selected. No noise when in neutral regardless of clutch
engagement. 
  Tranny worked fine in donor car, clutch worked before R&R'd. Confirmed
correct install.

At this point I'm worried that the input shaft splines are chewed up, but
we'll wait and see.

Jonas
> 
>>> On Wed, 1 May 2002, Tony Morehead wrote:
>>> 
>>>> i rebuilt a 1987 16v engine and had an 020 tranny from an 84 8v.  i
>> put
>> both
>>>> in another 1987 16v scirocco and the engine starts but the clutch
>> doesnt
>>>> engage correctly.
>>> Hmm,
>>> 
>>> Stuff you've already probably checked... but are you sure that the disc
>> is
>>> the right one? an 84 8v tranny takes a disc with a smaller spline than a
>>> 16v, so you need to use the disc from a pre 93 8v and the pressure plate
>> +
>>> flywheel from the 16v. If you put a 16v clutch disc on an 8v tranny that
>>> would be your problem there. the 16v disc has a bigger hole as the
>>> mainshaft in a 16v tranny is bigger.
>>> 
>>> In other words, if you slid just the disc onto the tranny before
>>> assembling everything, it should mate up with the splines on the tranny
>>> input shaft & spinning the disc should spin the transaxles
>>> insides.
>>> 
>>> I know you already probably thought of this all, but its worth
>> mentioning
>>> when you have a mismatch like you listed that not everyone knows the
>>> custom trick too.
>>> 
>>> take care,
>>> 
>>> Steve
>>> 
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