was Re: upper strut nut question..., now tranny drain plug Q

[sfenton@amazon.com (Fenton, Shannon)]

Or buy the correct tool for 12 bucks at NAPA. Its not a VW only tool.
http://www.scirocco16v.com/tech/tranny_fluid_change.htm

Shannon=20
www.scirocco16v.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Alexander [mailto:rick@brubakerbox.com]=20
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 12:49 PM
To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Subject: Re: was Re: upper strut nut question..., now tranny drain plug
Q


My solution was to take a 17 mm bolt put as many 17 mm nuts on it as I
could and then weld the last one to the bolt. A little grinding for weld
flash and you have a 17 mm allen socket.

Rick Alexander
http://www.brubakerbox.com
http://clubs.hemmings.com/hams/ http://clubs.hemmings.com/vwsrus/

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ewan Hopkins" <ewanhopkins@hotmail.com>
To: <rocco16v@netzero.com>; <rapieper@yahoo.com>;
<jnbjones@boulder.net>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
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Subject: was Re: upper strut nut question..., now tranny drain plug Q


> this is getting a bit anal now but, WTF, it's friday: to my feeble=20
> mind,
box
> wrench =3D box spanner =3D a short hexagonal tube with, basically,what =

> amounts to a pivoting wire handle. Pretty agricultural but does the=20
> job.
Alternative
> versions are one piece cast alloy, I guess not meant to do anything=20
> particularly heavy. What I was talking about was a closed end 12-point

> wrench/spanner, usually double-ended, with the shaft turned-down at=20
> either end to give access to recessed nuts. Is that still a box=20
> wrench?
>
> On a completely differnt subject, I have a problem - need to undo the=20
> transmission drain plug. Don't have the proper plug key to hand.=20
> What's
the
> likelihood of being able to use a wheel bolt if I file a couple of=20
> flats
and
> use vice-grips? Don't have time to go get the proper key.
>
> preparing to be educated.... ;-)
>
>
> Ewan Hopkins
>
>
> >From: "Larry" <rocco16v@netzero.com>
> >Reply-To: "Larry" <rocco16v@netzero.com>
> >To: "Ewan Hopkins" <ewanhopkins@hotmail.com>, <rapieper@yahoo.com>,=20
> ><jnbjones@boulder.net>, <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> >Subject: Re: upper strut nut question...
> >Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 18:30:50 -0800
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> >offset ring spanner =3D box-end wrench, I believe.  (for you =
non-Brits)

> >go easy on the chisel should work out
> >Larry
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Ewan Hopkins <ewanhopkins@hotmail.com>
> >To: <rapieper@yahoo.com>; <jnbjones@boulder.net>;
<scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> >Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 2:18 AM
> >Subject: Re: upper strut nut question...
> >
> >
> > > IME, as long as you remember to loosen the top nut before you=20
> > > remove
the
> > > strut from the car, it's a piece of cake. I have done it many=20
> > > times
> >using
> >an
> > > offset ring spanner and an allen key with a piece of pipe for=20
> > > extra
> >leverage
> > > - worked every time. A few taps on the nut with a hammer & chisel=20
> > > will
> >help
> > > to loosen the thread.  If you undo the nut most of the way up the
shaft
> > > before removing the strut then it generally makes life easier. As=20
> > > for removing the shock from the strut, gentle bashing with a=20
> > > hammer on the
> >side
> > > and top of the cap will also help to loosen the thread. Not too=20
> > > hard
on
> >the
> > > sides mind you - going hell for leather with a 2lb mash hammer=20
> > > might
> >just
> > > distort it a bit!
> > >
> > > HTH,
> > >
> > > Ewan Hopkins
> > > '85 Storm 2.0
> > > '86 GT 1.8
> > > '87 GT 1.6
> > >
> > > >From: Ron Pieper <rapieper@yahoo.com>
> > > >To: Jason Jones <jnbjones@boulder.net>, scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > > >Subject: Re: upper strut nut question...
> > > >Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 13:13:27 -0800 (PST)
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> > > >--- Jason Jones <jnbjones@boulder.net> wrote:
> > > > > I am about to undertake my first strut replacement and am=20
> > > > > worried about being able to remove these nuts.  Is it=20
> > > > > impossible to do without
an
> > > > > impact wrench?
> > > >
> > > >No, but it's far easier with one.
> > > >
> > > > >Also, I was thinking it would be safer/easier to get  leverage=20
> > > > >if I were to use the spring compressor with the strut
still
> > > > > on
> > > > > the car and then once the nut is loosened remove the strut and

> > > > > proceed. Any issues with this?
> > > >
> > > >Hmmm...tight fit...too tight...BTDT.
> > > >
> > > >Here's what I've done in the absence of having the "right" tool.

> > > >I found the right sized socket, and ground a few flats into the=20
> > > >sides,
so
> > > >a Kentucky Fit-All (or vice-grips) would fit.  Through the square
hole,
> > > >I put the allen wrench, with a pipe or something to gain the=20
> > > >required torque.  Just loosen it a bit.
> > > >
> > > >Or, preferably, get the right tool.
> > > >
> > > >Then remove the strut, install compressors, and go to town.  YOu=20
> > > >can grab the shaft if you have to, since it's scrap anyway. =20
> > > >Trust me though, that steel is sooo hard that not many hand tools

> > > >will touch
it,
> > > >so success has limited potential.
> > > >
> > > >AFA getting the nut that holds the shock off (you didn't ask,=20
> > > >but...)
,
> > > >put the strut (sans spring) back onto the hub carrier, and let=20
> > > >the
car
> > > >help you out.  Put large channellocks on the nut.  Put a loong=20
> > > >(3' or
> > > >4') cheater bar on the outside (longer) handle of the
channellocks,
and
> > > >gronk away.  It *will* loosen.  Remember, heat is your friend.
> > > >
> > > > > Also, would a shop be
> > > > > inclined to swap the cartridges for me even if I didn't=20
> > > > > purchase
> >them
> > > > > from them and if so, what would be an appropriate charge?
> > > >
> > > >That all depends on the shop!  Try an automotive machine shop=20
> > > >that doesn't sell so much.  Figure 1 hour's work...what, $40,=20
> > > >$50?
> > > >
> > > >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> > > >Cheapass Ron
> > > >"Victor" '87 16V Scirocco
> > > >"Teufelhasen" '93 Cabby <-For sale
> > > >
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