[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]

88 16V For Sale (Long...Please Don't Read)



This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

------=_NextPart_000_00F4_01C21565.969DCF40
Content-Type: text/plain;
	charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have to agree wicha', Warren, it sounds like you don't really want to =
sell it. =20
 So, do what you suggested; store it!  It's paid for, so all you'll be =
out are storage fees (if you have to rent a spot).  Then, when the time =
comes that you have the time/$ to enjoy it again, you'll thank yourself =
for being so  farsighted....

Larry =20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Warren R. Price=20
  To: Scirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
  Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 6:07 PM
  Subject: 88 16V For Sale (Long...Please Don't Read)


  I had posted a week or so ago that I have an Black 88 16V for sale in =
Alliance, Ohio (Northeast Ohio).  I also put the car in Autotrader.  =
It's in very good to excellent original condition.  There have been no =
modifications done to the car whatsoever.  My reluctant interest in =
selling it is now approaching a need (I have some serious repairs to =
make on my wife's Jetta that and I have another car, blah, blah, blah).  =
I've had some folks contact me from New Hampshire, New York, Detroit, =
and Dallas, Texas.  Though all say they are real interested, no one has =
looked at it yet.  I will probably change the asking price on Autotrader =
pretty soon, but I started at $3950.  For anybody on the list who is =
interested let's make that $3500 or best offer.  With another car =
payment that will hit in July, I'm a little more anxious to sell.  I set =
up a webpage with a bunch of pictures and info at =
http://home.neo.rr.com/scirocco2 .  If anyone is interested I would be =
happy to talk with you.  E-mail me off list or call me at 330-821-1147 =
(Work during the day), 330-429-1425 (cell Phone).  My home number is =
330-823-0683.  You'll probably end up leaving a message because between =
work and night school I'm rarely there.  I was truly screwed over when I =
bought the car a year ago for $3500.  The car looked great, but needed =
some things done to it.  The "mechanic" I bought it off of sold me the =
car plus agreed to do a bunch of work on it for $3500.  $1200 later, =
I've done everything he promised to do.  At any rate, the one good thing =
about me is, there won't be any surprises with the car.  Believe me, it =
sucks to get your new car and have the oil pressure light come on half =
way home.  In other words, I'll share with you ad naseum what's good and =
bad.  I do not want to part with this car.  The hell I went through to =
get it and now having to sell the car makes me half sick.  It's just not =
a practical commuter and/or kid hauler.  I guess the alternative would =
be to put it in storage.  Maybe that's what I should do because the more =
years that go by, the more difficult it will be to replace this one, =
when it becomes mroe practical to do so.  On second thought, don't =
contact me about the car...  This just isn't easy.  Maybe that's why I =
tell everyone who calls everything that is wrong with it.  What the =
hell, if no one on list is interested in the car, perhaps you can at =
least offer some sympathy for the predicament.  This is like trying to =
sell my son or my wife...I'm off to go drive around for a while.

  WRP=20
  =20
  Here's are the brief highlights:
  =20
  88 16v
  =20
  Good:=20
  Runs Excellent (No ticking, tapping, knocking, oil burn, oil leak, =
etc...)
  New struts, wheel bearing, lower ball joint, four new tires and =
alignment last month
  Replaced Distributor and coil a few weeks ago
  New radiator fan switch, lower temperature thermostat
  Timing belt replaced less than a year ago
  Motor mounts are all new (factory type)
  New muffler two or three weeks ago
  Black Leatherette/Cloth
  A/C (Works Great, converted to 134A)
  Power Mirrors work
  Sunroof (works and doesn't leak)\
  No Rust (well actually, there is a bubble in the paint about the size =
of a penny on the driver's door that is probably rust)
  Never wrecked, I'm the second owner
  Paint is very good (there has been paint work in two spots.
  Mileage about 122-124,0000
  Interior is excellent
  =20
  Bad:
  Electric radiator fan wants to die and be left alone, but to its' =
credit keeps on trying (It's starting to make terrible noises like death =
is imminent)  I may just break down and finally order one this week.
  There is a small hole in the flex pipe.
  There is a kink in the clutch cable, making the pedal a little touchy =
(the clutch itself is fine)
  Instrument cluster replaced last year so I registered the title as =
true mileage unknown.  I will probably put the original 16V isntrument =
cluster back in here shortly.  One of the diodes needed soldered back in =
place.
  The car steers like a cadillac.  The power steering is feather light.  =
My mechanic told me that either the pump is putting out too much =
pressure or the power steering rack needs adjusted.  He said there's =
some special guage he would need from VW to check whatever the hell it =
is he thinks is the problem.  If someone would want to correct the =
problem you could be looking at anything from a power steering pump to a =
new rack I guess.  I went without power steering for a while (took the =
pump and belt off and drained the system).  It steers great but took too =
much effort when parking and stuff so I put it back on.  There's no play =
in the steering, it's just feather light.
  I broke the damn thread off of the driver's side windshield wiper post =
trying to tighten it.  The friggin' wiper kept catching, and I tightened =
the nut that holds the wiper on.  It was obviously tight enough when I =
thought to myself, "Ok, one more turn" and the nut with the thread still =
attached came right off.  So right now, I have the poor man's Euro =
wiper. =20
  =20
  Bonus stuff:
  =20
  Not much.  You'll receive (if you want them) two factory radios.  One =
came with the car and the other is an extra.  You would probably have no =
use for these because there is a JVC head unit with CD player and JVC =
6x9's mounted in the rear dash and new door speakers as well that are =
included with the car.  It's certainly not an award winning stereo =
system, but it ran about $350 bucks or so last year.    =20

------=_NextPart_000_00F4_01C21565.969DCF40
Content-Type: text/html;
	charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" =
http-equiv=3DContent-Type>
<META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2614.3500" name=3DGENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=3D#c8e0d8>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have to agree wicha', Warren, it =
sounds like you=20
don't really want to sell it.&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;So, do what you suggested; store =
it!&nbsp;=20
It's paid for, so all you'll be out are storage fees (if you have to =
rent a=20
spot).&nbsp; Then, when the time comes that you have the time/$ to enjoy =
it=20
again, you'll thank yourself for being so&nbsp; =
farsighted....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Larry&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A href=3D"mailto:wprice@neo.rr.com"; title=3Dwprice@neo.rr.com>Warren =
R. Price</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:Scirocco-l@scirocco.org"=20
  title=3DScirocco-l@scirocco.org>Scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, June 16, 2002 =
6:07 PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> 88 16V For Sale =
(Long...Please=20
  Don't Read)</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I had posted a week or so ago that I =
have an=20
  Black 88 16V for sale in Alliance, Ohio (Northeast Ohio).&nbsp; I also =
put the=20
  car in Autotrader.&nbsp; It's in very good to excellent original=20
  condition.&nbsp; There have been no modifications done to the car=20
  whatsoever.&nbsp; My reluctant interest in selling&nbsp;it is now =
approaching=20
  a need (I have&nbsp;some&nbsp;serious repairs to make on my =
wife's&nbsp;Jetta=20
  that and I have another car, blah, blah, blah).&nbsp; I've had some =
folks=20
  contact me from New Hampshire, New York, Detroit, and Dallas,=20
  Texas.&nbsp;&nbsp;Though all say they are real interested, no one has =
looked=20
  at it yet.&nbsp; I will probably change the asking price on Autotrader =
pretty=20
  soon, but I started at $3950.&nbsp; For anybody on the list who is =
interested=20
  let's make that $3500 or best&nbsp;offer.&nbsp; With another car =
payment that=20
  will hit in&nbsp;July, I'm a little more anxious to sell.&nbsp; I set =
up a=20
  webpage&nbsp;with a bunch of pictures and info at <A=20
  =
href=3D"http://home.neo.rr.com/scirocco2";>http://home.neo.rr.com/scirocco=
2</A>=20
  .&nbsp;&nbsp;If anyone is interested I would be happy to talk with =
you.&nbsp;=20
  E-mail me off list or call me at 330-821-1147 (Work during the day),=20
  330-429-1425 (cell Phone).&nbsp; My home number is 330-823-0683.&nbsp; =
You'll=20
  probably end up leaving a message because between work and night =
school I'm=20
  rarely there.&nbsp; I was truly screwed over when I bought the =
car&nbsp;a year=20
  ago for $3500.&nbsp;&nbsp;The car looked great, but needed some=20
  things&nbsp;done to it.&nbsp; The "mechanic" I bought it off of sold =
me the=20
  car plus agreed to do a bunch of work on it for $3500.&nbsp; $1200 =
later, I've=20
  done everything he promised to do.&nbsp; At any rate,&nbsp;the one =
good thing=20
  about me is, there won't be any&nbsp;surprises with the car.&nbsp; =
Believe me,=20
  it sucks to get your new car and have the oil pressure light come on =
half way=20
  home.&nbsp; In other words, I'll&nbsp;share with you ad naseum what's =
good and=20
  bad.&nbsp; I do not want to part with this car.&nbsp; The hell I went =
through=20
  to get it and&nbsp;now having to sell&nbsp;the car makes me half =
sick.&nbsp;=20
  It's just not a practical commuter and/or kid hauler.&nbsp; I guess =
the=20
  alternative would be to put it in storage.&nbsp; Maybe that's what I =
should do=20
  because the more years that go by, the more difficult it will be to =
replace=20
  this one, when it becomes mroe practical to do&nbsp;so.&nbsp; On =
second=20
  thought, don't contact me about the car...&nbsp; This just isn't =
easy.&nbsp;=20
  Maybe that's why&nbsp;I tell everyone who calls&nbsp;everything that =
is wrong=20
  with it.&nbsp; What the hell, if no one on list is interested in the =
car,=20
  perhaps you can at least offer&nbsp;some sympathy for the =
predicament.&nbsp;=20
  This is like trying to sell my son or my wife...I'm off to =
go&nbsp;drive=20
  around for a while.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>WRP</FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here's are the brief =
highlights:</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>88 16v</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good: </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Runs Excellent (No ticking, tapping, =
knocking,=20
  oil burn, oil leak, etc...)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>New struts, wheel bearing, lower ball =
joint, four=20
  new tires and alignment last month</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Replaced Distributor and coil a few =
weeks=20
  ago</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>New radiator fan switch, lower =
temperature=20
  thermostat</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Timing belt replaced less than a year =

  ago</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Motor mounts are all new (factory=20
  type)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>New muffler two or three weeks =
ago</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Black Leatherette/Cloth</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A/C (Works Great, converted to =
134A)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Power Mirrors work</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sunroof (works and doesn't =
leak)\</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>No Rust (well actually, there is a =
bubble in the=20
  paint about the size of a penny on the driver's door that is probably=20
  rust)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Never wrecked, I'm the second =
owner</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Paint is very good (there has been =
paint work in=20
  two spots.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mileage about =
122-124,0000</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Interior is excellent</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bad:</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Electric radiator fan wants to die =
and be left=20
  alone, but to its' credit keeps on trying (It's starting to make =
terrible=20
  noises like death is imminent)&nbsp; I may just break down and finally =
order=20
  one this week.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>There is a small hole in the flex=20
  pipe.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>There is a kink in the clutch cable, =
making the=20
  pedal a little touchy (the clutch itself is fine)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Instrument cluster replaced last year =
so I=20
  registered the title as true mileage unknown.&nbsp; I will probably =
put the=20
  original 16V isntrument cluster back in here shortly.&nbsp; One of the =
diodes=20
  needed soldered back in place.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The car steers like a cadillac.&nbsp; =
The power=20
  steering is feather light.&nbsp; My mechanic told me that either the =
pump is=20
  putting out too much pressure or the power steering rack needs =
adjusted.&nbsp;=20
  He said there's some special guage he would need from VW to check =
whatever the=20
  hell it is he thinks is the problem.&nbsp; If someone would want to =
correct=20
  the problem you could be looking at anything from a power steering =
pump to a=20
  new rack I guess.&nbsp; I went without power steering for a while =
(took the=20
  pump and belt off and drained the system).&nbsp; It steers great but =
took too=20
  much effort when parking and stuff so I put it back on.&nbsp; There's =
no play=20
  in the steering, it's just feather light.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I broke the damn thread off of the =
driver's side=20
  windshield wiper post trying to tighten it.&nbsp; The friggin' wiper =
kept=20
  catching, and I tightened the nut that holds the wiper on.&nbsp; It =
was=20
  obviously tight enough when I thought to myself, "Ok, one more turn" =
and the=20
  nut with the thread still attached came right off.&nbsp; So right now, =
I have=20
  the poor man's Euro wiper.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bonus stuff:</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Not much.&nbsp; You'll receive (if =
you want them)=20
  two factory radios.&nbsp; One came with the car and the other is an=20
  extra.&nbsp; You would probably have no use for these because there is =
a JVC=20
  head unit with CD player and JVC 6x9's mounted&nbsp;in the rear dash =
and new=20
  door speakers as well that are included with the car.&nbsp; It's =
certainly not=20
  an award winning stereo system, but it ran about&nbsp;$350 bucks or so =
last=20
  year.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

------=_NextPart_000_00F4_01C21565.969DCF40--