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K&Ns BETTER THAN OEM?

Subject: K&Ns BETTER THAN OEM?
From: jamal_latrell@angelfire.com (Marko Latrell)
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 09:19:38 -0200
I noticed an improvement when I put a K&N in my Rocc. Cleaning it was not too bad either.

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87 Scirocco 8v
84 GTi

On Sun, 9 Jun 2002 09:02:37   
 Larry wrote:
>Chris-
>  No problem, mate.
>I DID some research, the most trustworthy type; first-hand,
>up-close-and-personal.....I replaced my old, stock element with a new K&N.
>And, as I said previously, my impression was....no change in my Scirocco.
>YRMV.
>(And, seriously...... what would you expect K&N to say about their
>product? )
>
>Larry   sandiego16V (still trundling along with the infamous K&N.....)
>
>
>> Larry, not to harsh your gig but maybe you should do some research before
>> you draw the conclusion that K&N filters do not offer nay improvement over
>> stock. Im sure if you looked you would find some dyno results. K&N also
>has
>> some good data on the airflow through their filters vs stock. check em out
>> <www.knfilters.com/facts.htm#RESULTS>
>>
>>
>> >From: Eric L Ellis <onesixv@juno.com>
>> >To: rocco16v@netzero.com
>> >CC: Scramjet5@aol.com, scirocco-l@scirocco.org
>> >Subject: Re: K&Ns BETTER THAN OEM?
>> >Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 14:31:30 -0400
>> >
>> >My reason for having two is to cut down tune-up time.  My thought is that
>> >if you change your filter every 6 months, surely in that time you can
>> >spare a total of 15 minutes to prep the alternate filter.
>> >
>> >I should back up on my K&N claims however.  When I changed to the K&N, I
>> >also removed the plastic piece from the bottom of the cross member.  This
>> >in itself would open airflow and add to the increase I noted earlier.
>> >HOWEVER, a friend of mine (87 16v Scirocco) was late on the group K&N
>> >craze and brought me his car and new K&N filter during a rain storm.  I
>> >refused to crawl my fat ass under his car to take out the aforementioned
>> >plastic piece but I did swap his filter and promised to complete the job
>> >on a drier date.  He too noted the increase in throttle response even
>> >with that piece in place.  I can attest to 12 people giving the K&N a
>> >thumbs up over stock, 7 of those pertaining to VW's with box elements.  I
>> >could see if they all paid $30 - $40 for their filter (You know how you
>> >WANT something you pay good money for to work?), but I gave one to a
>> >fellow Scirocco 16v owner and one to a VR6 Passat owner and both liked
>> >the results.
>> >
>> >To Brian I will say this:  If you do NOT like the K&N after purchasing
>> >it, I'll buy it from you.  Hell, you'd think I work for K&N with a
>> >guarantee like that.
>> >
>> >Eric
>> >"Good, bad...I'm the guy with the gun!"
>> >http://www.geocities.com/blitzkrieg16v
>> >AOL IM:  OneSixV
>> >http://www.geocities.com/onesixv
>> >
>> >On Sat, 8 Jun 2002 08:17:18 -0700 "Larry" <rocco16v@netzero.com> writes:
>> > > Eric-
>> > >   One element, two elements, or ten....you still have to clean one
>> > > every
>> > > time.
>> > > Without back-to-back dyno runs, what each of us is presenting are
>> > > only
>> > > impressions.  Your impression is that K&N offers improvements.  My
>> > > impression is that it does not (and I should have stated it that way
>> > > in my
>> > > first post).
>> > >
>> > > Larry  sandiego16V
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > Sorry Larry, I disagree.  I noticed an immediate increase in
>> > > throttle
>> > > > response and quicker revs under load with my K&N.  And yes,
>> > > considerably
>> > > > more than a new stock paper filter.
>> > > >
>> > > > As far as the pain in cleaning and oiling the filter, buy two and
>> > > have
>> > > > one sitting in the garage ready to go.
>> > > >
>> > > > Eric
>> > > > "Good, bad...I'm the guy with the gun!"
>> > > > http://www.geocities.com/blitzkrieg16v
>> > > > AOL IM:  OneSixV
>> > > > http://www.geocities.com/onesixv
>> > > >
>> > > > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002 18:17:52 -0700 "Larry" <rocco16v@netzero.com>
>> > > writes:
>> > > > > I've used both in my vehicles.
>> > > > >  Stock is fine if you replace (a quick and easy job) every
>> > > year.
>> > > > > K&N's last forever but require tedious cleaning and re-oiling
>> > > every
>> > > > > two
>> > > > > years or so.
>> > > > >   K&N will NOT increase power over a new, stock element.
>> > > > > Me?  I'd go with stock, even though my 16V has the K&N (a gift
>> > > from
>> > > > > young
>> > > > > son).
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Larry  sandiego16V
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > HEY IM TRYING TO DECIDE BETWEEN GOING TO PEPBOYS AND PICKING
>> > > UP
>> > > > > THE K&NS
>> > > > > OR GOING TO VW AND GETTING THE STOCK ONES... WHAT ARE THE PROS
>> > > AND
>> > > > > CONS
>> > > > > > BRIAN
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
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