K&Ns BETTER THAN OEM?

[green536@hotmail.com (Chris DeLong)]

Larry, not to harsh your gig but maybe you should do some research before 
you draw the conclusion that K&N filters do not offer nay improvement over 
stock. Im sure if you looked you would find some dyno results. K&N also has 
some good data on the airflow through their filters vs stock. check em out 
<www.knfilters.com/facts.htm#RESULTS>


>From: Eric L Ellis <onesixv@juno.com>
>To: rocco16v@netzero.com
>CC: Scramjet5@aol.com, scirocco-l@scirocco.org
>Subject: Re: K&Ns BETTER THAN OEM?
>Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 14:31:30 -0400
>
>My reason for having two is to cut down tune-up time.  My thought is that
>if you change your filter every 6 months, surely in that time you can
>spare a total of 15 minutes to prep the alternate filter.
>
>I should back up on my K&N claims however.  When I changed to the K&N, I
>also removed the plastic piece from the bottom of the cross member.  This
>in itself would open airflow and add to the increase I noted earlier.
>HOWEVER, a friend of mine (87 16v Scirocco) was late on the group K&N
>craze and brought me his car and new K&N filter during a rain storm.  I
>refused to crawl my fat ass under his car to take out the aforementioned
>plastic piece but I did swap his filter and promised to complete the job
>on a drier date.  He too noted the increase in throttle response even
>with that piece in place.  I can attest to 12 people giving the K&N a
>thumbs up over stock, 7 of those pertaining to VW's with box elements.  I
>could see if they all paid $30 - $40 for their filter (You know how you
>WANT something you pay good money for to work?), but I gave one to a
>fellow Scirocco 16v owner and one to a VR6 Passat owner and both liked
>the results.
>
>To Brian I will say this:  If you do NOT like the K&N after purchasing
>it, I'll buy it from you.  Hell, you'd think I work for K&N with a
>guarantee like that.
>
>Eric
>"Good, bad...I'm the guy with the gun!"
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>On Sat, 8 Jun 2002 08:17:18 -0700 "Larry" <rocco16v@netzero.com> writes:
> > Eric-
> >   One element, two elements, or ten....you still have to clean one
> > every
> > time.
> > Without back-to-back dyno runs, what each of us is presenting are
> > only
> > impressions.  Your impression is that K&N offers improvements.  My
> > impression is that it does not (and I should have stated it that way
> > in my
> > first post).
> >
> > Larry  sandiego16V
> >
> >
> >
> > > Sorry Larry, I disagree.  I noticed an immediate increase in
> > throttle
> > > response and quicker revs under load with my K&N.  And yes,
> > considerably
> > > more than a new stock paper filter.
> > >
> > > As far as the pain in cleaning and oiling the filter, buy two and
> > have
> > > one sitting in the garage ready to go.
> > >
> > > Eric
> > > "Good, bad...I'm the guy with the gun!"
> > > http://www.geocities.com/blitzkrieg16v
> > > AOL IM:  OneSixV
> > > http://www.geocities.com/onesixv
> > >
> > > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002 18:17:52 -0700 "Larry" <rocco16v@netzero.com>
> > writes:
> > > > I've used both in my vehicles.
> > > >  Stock is fine if you replace (a quick and easy job) every
> > year.
> > > > K&N's last forever but require tedious cleaning and re-oiling
> > every
> > > > two
> > > > years or so.
> > > >   K&N will NOT increase power over a new, stock element.
> > > > Me?  I'd go with stock, even though my 16V has the K&N (a gift
> > from
> > > > young
> > > > son).
> > > >
> > > > Larry  sandiego16V
> > > >
> > > > > HEY IM TRYING TO DECIDE BETWEEN GOING TO PEPBOYS AND PICKING
> > UP
> > > > THE K&NS
> > > > OR GOING TO VW AND GETTING THE STOCK ONES... WHAT ARE THE PROS
> > AND
> > > > CONS
> > > > > BRIAN
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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