Still I wouldn't say to never use them just because some failed. I am sure there are a LOT more success stories than failures. Besides, there are a whole bunch of parameters to take into consideration before blaming TT for them. I'd use them! Dave > Something was definitely > wrong with a batch of springs. > > -- > Kevin Collins > Huntington Beach, CA > '86.5 16V 2.0 > '00 Passat GLS 1.8T >