ebay scam

[Larry" <rocco16v@netzero.com (Larry)]

Brian-
  Steffan emailed me within minutes of my posting, stating that he was
having some sort of problem contacting the list and asking if I would help.
I answered that I would, but have not heard back from him.  He seemed
genuinely concerned about the discussion that was taking place.

Larry


> Ron, if you told people that, "That there cam came out of one a them
> Europeeen engines what make 139hp, yessirreee" then somebody ought to call
> you on it.  I can't really add morethan what Larry said:
>
> >It's called "implication".
> >He is NOT 100% in the right, he probably IS 100% within the law.
>
> As for Larry's question:
> >Is it our duty to protect the people who don't know the facts?
> >I dunno.
>
> I have to answer Yes.  The object of it is not to protect people from
their
> ignorance so much as call people out when they start taking advantage of
> others' ignorance.  People with integrity don't take advantage of other's
> ignorance.  The whole caveat emptor thing is just a sad commentary on how
> well we have come to tollerate dishonesty.  I'm not saying we should
expect
> dishonesty to dissappear, just that we shouldn't be expected to tollerate
it
> or be indifferent about it.
>
> Now that all of that has been said...
>
> I wrote an e-mail to Steffan, suggesting that he should check the e-mails
on
> the list since they related to him.  The main reason I did this was
because
> I had chimed in with mroe than a couple of cents, and I'd rather him read
it
> so I wasn't doing so behind his back.  He deserves to hear what's being
> said.
>
> Steffan replied that he was a list member, but couldn't find the thread.
He
> asked what the problem with the ad was, and so I told him I, and others,
> thought it was misleading, etc.
>
> We conversed via another round of e-mails and he then informed me that he
> was pulling the cam auction off of eBay.  I haven't checked, but I'm sure
he
> did.  It's sounds as though he had no idea that the ad was misleading, but
> that he did know it was the same as a US cam.  As I said before, I don't
> know how you could write that ad and not see it as misleading, but I'll
take
> his word for it.
>
> Whether he did something wrong, we may never know, but he did find the
right
> solution to it.
>
> Dirk, I don't think we are being ethnocentric here.  For starters, the ad
is
> in English, and he lists only the shipping price to the US.  It's clear
who
> his target audience is.  As I explained to Steffan, the cam is european in
> the sense that it is, well european, but it isn't "Euro" in the way the
term
> "Euro" is used (like it or not) to describe parts that are stock or only
> available in Europe and not elsewhere.  Maybe it is crazy that this is
what
> the term "Euro" is associated with, but you can't say the association
> doesn't exist in the minds of this ads target audience.
>
> Steffan is a reasonable guy, I'm sure.  Heck, everyone I have met on this
> list has been a reasonable guy or gal, and I'm glad to know you all.
>
>
> Brian
>
>
>
>
> >From: "BcH" <bhonnold@pac-cap.com>
> >Reply-To: <bhonnold@pac-cap.com>
> >To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> >Subject: RE: ebay scam (list etiquette)
> >Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 15:23:28 -0700
> >
> >Please will all of you responding to messages in this and any other
thread,
> >see your way clear to removing all but the list e-mail address from your
> >replies.
> >
> >There is no reason to send twice as much mail to those who have replied
> >within the threads.
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >BcH
> >78 MkI Ragtop ABA 16vT boxes of parts
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> "Take your time, do it right. Be patient. ZEN baby."  Shawn Méze
>
>
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