fresh rebuild - new everything. starts, then cuts out. canI borrow some knowledge?

[Paul.Cormie@EEESystems.com (Cormie, Paul)]

I have been reading and reading the Bentley.  I swear I could make a better
manual (or at least re-arrange it better)!  torq specs are ALL over the
place, and the list goes on.  ANYWAY...

I am definitely going to do what you suggested Mardak.  one thing I also
have to make sure to do is ground the coil wire from the coil, so it doesn't
spark the plugs without fuel.  in fact maybe I will just take out the plugs
and let it spin to pre-lube it more (of course I know I don't have to turn
it over), but I am sure all of the assembly lube is long gone from the
internal parts.

I am also going to check the vacuum lines, and redo the trans ground.  I
think this last one might be a problem, since I polished and clear coated my
trans mount.  I think maybe the clear coat is preventing a solid ground
(although I didn't clear coat the bolt it is attached to).  Well, it takes
20 minutes to redo the trans mount, so what the heck!

thanks for all the great suggestions!
-Paul (rockin16v)

-----Original Message-----
From: Mardak [mailto:maardak@yahoo.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 8:04 PM
To: Cormie, Paul; 'scirocco-l@scirocco.org'
Subject: Re: fresh rebuild - new everything. starts, then cuts out. can
I bo rrow some knowledge?


Although you've tried to run it several times, the fuel system still
might not be bled fully...  I went through this same scenario with my
recent swap, and assumed my injectors were faulty.  I bought new
injectors, with the same results...  I ended up just letting it bleed
for a while, and that corrected the problem...  Just put the injectors
in a large jar (seal the top up pretty well) and lift the plate in the
fuel distributor (cis or cis-e systems anyways...) with the ignition
on.  It took a lot longer than I thought it would... 

It can't hurt to try this before you assume it's a bigger problem. 
Hope you get it going, I know the feeling of putting a bunch of time
and effort into a swap only to run into a few head-scratchers...

HTH,

Mark.

 
--- "Cormie, Paul" <Paul.Cormie@EEESystems.com> wrote:
> Hey guys.  
> 
> This is the first time I have needed the Scirocco list.  I just
> installed a
> freshly rebuilt engine in my Rocco.  I am step-by-stepping it on
> vortex.
> BTW: my vortex name is "rockin16v".
> 
> OK - double checked everything and my car wont run.  It starts, but
> dies
> when I try to give it gas (or leave it alone for that matter).  
> 
> I checked fuses, firing order, plugs, coil...and lots more.  a few
> things of
> note: I lined up the flywheel mark with the cam mark, and the bottom
> crank
> pulley doesn't line up too well (almost looks like it is out a tooth,
> but I
> know the cover is plastic and inaccurate, so I went with the upper
> cam mark,
> and flywheel mark.  
> 
> I have gas in the car.  94 oct 1/4-1/3 tank. 
> 
> I checked the fuel pump relay (didn't use a test light, but I felt it
> click
> when ignition went on).  It sure seems like it is starved for fuel. 
> it is
> high compression (11:1), with a lightened flywheel, brand new 700CCA
> battery(bought last night), so it is a bit hard to turn over (not
> hard, just
> harder than I was used to on my 1.8L).
> 
> I had no problems with fuel injection when I took it out (and the
> only thing
> I did to the fuel injection is new o-rings, and K&N air
> filter/gaskets).  It
> sure seems like there is one electrical connection undone. I have an
> autotech power module set at the highest setting (7) if that makes
> any
> difference (I am pretty sure it doesn't).
> 
> can someone shed some light on this for me?  I asked on vortex, and
> someone
> mentioned to "bleed" the fuel system.  I am sure (with the amount of
> time I
> have turned it over it is well bled.  I am tempted to pull the
> injectors to
> see what is happening.  (lift the flow plate etc...).
> 
> Thanks a lot guys/girls.  Hopefully this knowledge base will work for
> me.
> 
> ______________________________
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