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chassis re-enforcement v.101
- Subject: chassis re-enforcement v.101
- From: green536@hotmail.com (Chris DeLong)
- Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 20:59:16 +0000
Hmm interesting. The biggest noticable addition for me would have to be a
LOWER stress bar.
Chris DeLong
ICQ#45030867
Seattle, WA USA
'80 16V 'Rocco ragtop
'91 GLi 2.0 16V
'77 Rabbit 16V
'80 'Vert (parting out!)
'61 17 Window type II
'91 Vanagon
'78 Rabbit
'84 Jetta
>From: "Rabbit16v" <Rabbit16v@attbi.com>
>To: "Scirocco List" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>Subject: Re: chassis re-enforcement v.101
>Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 11:08:12 -0800
>
>Actually, if you do a before and after test drive, installing an upper
>strut
>brace is, I think, makes one of the biggest differencese next to lowering
>the car. I have done the before and after test on my Rabbit, Pickup,
>Golf2,
>and both Sciroccos. I don't know what Shine would say about it but I think
>the braces add a little more rigidity and less sway in hard cornering.
>This
>has just been my experience.
>
>Dave
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "L F" <rocco16v@netzero.net>
>To: "Josh20V" <mkii@nycap.rr.com>; "Scott F. Williams"
><sfwilliams@comcast.net>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2002 6:00 AM
>Subject: Re: chassis re-enforcement v.101
>
>
>I'm not so sure strut towers (ST) are problematic. I think ST braces are
>popular because they are relatively inexpensive, very easy to install, and
>have a certain visual impact. Yes, STs sometimes exhibit evidence of
>movement. (the key word is sometimes) But, if the truth be known, if every
>ST brace were to vaporize, no one would probably notice a great deal of
>difference, unless the STs were already loose. In which case they should
>get out the welder and FIX the problem.
>My $.02, which is probably worth considerably less than that to certain
>individuals.....:)
>
>Larry
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Josh20V
> To: Scott F. Williams ; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 11:16 AM
> Subject: Re: chassis re-enforcement v.101
>
>
> strut towers would seem to be a known weak area. and a normal bar will
>is
> not an option.
>
> Josh Able
> www.JsHouseOfEuro.com
> Carbon Fiber & Fiberglass fenders and hoods
> the RSD line is HERE!!!!!!!
> KW-Weitec-H&R-Bilstein
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott F. Williams" <sfwilliams@comcast.net>
> To: "Josh20V" <mkii@nycap.rr.com>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 9:31 AM
> Subject: RE: chassis re-enforcement v.101
>
>
> > Josh, where do you suppose the chassis will crack, anyway. We all know
> that
> > the rad support is suspect, but the firewall? I can't see that
>breaking
> from
> > engine torque. Why not simply seam weld around all the engine mounts
>and
> > other body seams if you can? The Warpig landed jumps for five straight
> years
> > before any significant cracking ensued. That was impact damage and not
>due
> > to the engine, but I think you might be okay. Seam welding seems lots
>more
> > practical for what you're doing.
> >
> > P.S. What engine mounts are you running? Also, I think driving
>technique
> > will be critically important. Dragracing is far different than
>roadracing
> is
> > different than street driving, is different than... etc.
> > --
> > Scott F. Williams
> > NJ Scirocco nut
> > '99 Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS
> > Mazda 323 GTX turbo "assaulted" vehicle
> > Golf GTI 16v "rollycar"
> > ClubVAC: "Roads found. Drivers wanted."
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org
> > > [mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Josh20V
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 6:02 AM
> > > To: Michael Abatzis; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > > Subject: Re: chassis re-enforcement v.101
> > >
> > >
> > > though I would be strapped in well, so I don't foresee flying
>around.
>:P
> > >
> > > but with about 300whp and 260 ft/tq, I know the engine will break
>lose
> at
> > > some point, Im on barrowed time as of now.
> > >
> > > Josh Able
> > > www.JsHouseOfEuro.com
> > > Carbon Fiber & Fiberglass fenders and hoods
> > > the RSD line is HERE!!!!!!!
> > > KW-Weitec-H&R-Bilstein
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Michael Abatzis" <abatzis2@hotmail.com>
> > > To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > > Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 9:42 PM
> > > Subject: Re: chassis re-enforcement v.101
> > >
> > >
> > > > what i was saying is that you're potentially *disabling* a pretty
> > > important
> > > > protection mechanism in the car. better your head attached to
>your
> body
> > > > than engine to car body.
> > > >
> > > > -Michael Abatzis
> > > > Hotlanta! GA
> > > > 1988 Scirocco 2L 16v RIP-->parting, prelim web site, but not
> > > taking orders
> > > > yet: www.learnlink.emory.edu/~mabatzi/mikes_page1.html
> > > > 1987 Scirocco 2L 16v...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Josh20V" <mkii@nycap.rr.com>
> > > > >
> > > > >this isnt for protection, it is for re-enforcement to keep the
>engine
> > > > >connected to the rest of the car.
> > > > >
> > > > >Josh Able
> > > > >www.JsHouseOfEuro.com
> > > > >Carbon Fiber & Fiberglass fenders and hoods
> > > > >the RSD line is HERE!!!!!!!
> > > > >KW-Weitec-H&R-Bilstein
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "Michael Abatzis" <abatzis2@hotmail.com>
> > > > >To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > > > >Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 11:23 PM
> > > > >Subject: Re: chassis re-enforcement v.101
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > haven't ever seen this addressed, but what are you doing to
> > > the crush
> > > > >area
> > > > > > when you reinforce the engine bay like that? one of the only
>(and
> > > best,
> > > > > > imho) safety features on these cars is the crushability of the
> front
> > > and
> > > > > > rear. i'm thinking a tubular reinforcement would do away with
> that,
> > > and
> > > > > > turn these cars into even more of a death trap than they
>already
> > > > >are...$0.02
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Michael Abatzis
> > > > > > Hotlanta! GA
> > > > > > 1988 Scirocco 2L 16v RIP-->parting, prelim web site, but not
> taking
> > > > >orders
> > > > > > yet: www.learnlink.emory.edu/~mabatzi/mikes_page1.html
> > > > > > 1987 Scirocco 2L 16v...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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