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Here is my thought.  You are either losing spark or fuel.  Fuel pump =
relay would be my first thought.  Dizzy pick up (aka Hall sender) inside =
the dizzy would be my second guess.  Is there oil inside your dizzy cap? =
 Better yet,... is the black plug on the dizzy dangling around outside =
its little "slot"?  Last thought,.. which is what happened to my black =
16v,... the fuel box(ecu) was crapping out once it got warm .... =
replaced it and never had the problem again.
Let us know what else you find..
Chris
'88 16v Rocco =20
'78 8v Rocco
'80 Caddy
'92 SLC
'02 337 1.8T

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Ryan H=20
  To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
  Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 11:07 PM
  Subject: Re: Re: Is this possible as my problem?


  Larry, did it work afterwords, though?  Once I came to a stop, she =
fired right back up and ran fine for a few minutes, then went back into =
the usual limp-mode.
  As for the knock sensor, new knock sensor, cleaned connections, =
swapped knock box from a different 16V... no fixes.
  So, although it sounds like the knock system, everything there is ok.  =
The only thing I need to confirm is that if there was a problem with =
fuel, would it pull timing, or just stutter/stall?

  >=20
  > From: "L F" <rocco16v@netzero.net>
  > Date: 2002/12/18 Wed PM 10:31:53 EST
  > To: "Ryan H" <rhock99@epix.net>,=20
  > <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
  > Subject: Re: Is this possible as my problem?
  >=20
  > Fuel pump relay?  This same thing happened to the MkI the second day =
we had it.
  >=20
  > Larry
  >   ----- Original Message -----=20
  >   From: Ryan H=20
  >   To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
  >   Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 7:08 PM
  >   Subject: Is this possible as my problem?
  >=20
  >=20
  >   My 16V, which likes to run in limp-mode most of the time, took a =
real shit the other night... It lost power while I was driving it like =
usual (feels like when you switch on the AC, only much more abrupt).  SO =
I downshifted and gave it throttle... NOTHING, not even a noise. (Lights =
were still on as if engine was NOT stalled.)  Downshifted again, and it =
just stalled as I rolled to a stop.
  >   So, could it be a fuel related problem - like something clogging a =
line somewhere, then floating away (when power comes back, or when I =
shut the car off).  There is no stuttering to my car, the timing just =
gets pulled.  Would a fuel clog cause my timing to be pulled - I thought =
it would just make the car stutter???
  >=20
  >=20
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  Fuel pump relay?  This same thing happened to the MkI the second day =
we had it.

  Larry
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Ryan H=20
    To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
    Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 7:08 PM
    Subject: Is this possible as my problem?


    My 16V, which likes to run in limp-mode most of the time, took a =
real shit the other night... It lost power while I was driving it like =
usual (feels like when you switch on the AC, only much more abrupt).  SO =
I downshifted and gave it throttle... NOTHING, not even a noise. (Lights =
were still on as if engine was NOT stalled.)  Downshifted again, and it =
just stalled as I rolled to a stop.
    So, could it be a fuel related problem - like something clogging a =
line somewhere, then floating away (when power comes back, or when I =
shut the car off).  There is no stuttering to my car, the timing just =
gets pulled.  Would a fuel clog cause my timing to be pulled - I thought =
it would just make the car stutter???


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here is my thought.&nbsp; You are =
either losing=20
spark or fuel.&nbsp; Fuel pump relay would be my&nbsp;first =
thought.&nbsp; Dizzy=20
pick up (aka Hall sender) inside the dizzy would be my second =
guess.&nbsp; Is=20
there oil inside your dizzy cap?&nbsp; Better yet,... is the black plug =
on the=20
dizzy dangling around outside its little "slot"?&nbsp; Last thought,.. =
which is=20
what happened to my black 16v,... the fuel box(ecu) was crapping out =
once it got=20
warm .... replaced it and never had the problem again.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Let us know what else you =
find..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chris</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>'88 16v Rocco&nbsp; <BR>'78 8v =
Rocco<BR>'80=20
Caddy<BR>'92 SLC<BR>'02 337 1.8T<BR></FONT></DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Drhock99@epix.net href=3D"mailto:rhock99@epix.net";>Ryan =
H</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dscirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
  href=3D"mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org";>scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A> =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 18, =
2002 11:07=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Re: Is this =
possible as my=20
  problem?</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Larry, did it work afterwords, though?&nbsp; Once I =
came to a=20
  stop, she fired right back up and ran fine for a few minutes, then =
went back=20
  into the usual limp-mode.<BR>As for the knock sensor, new knock =
sensor,=20
  cleaned connections, swapped knock box from a different 16V... no=20
  fixes.<BR>So, although it sounds like the knock system, everything =
there is=20
  ok.&nbsp; The only thing I need to confirm is that if there was a =
problem with=20
  fuel, would it pull timing, or just stutter/stall?<BR><BR>&gt; =
<BR>&gt; From:=20
  "L F" &lt;rocco16v@netzero.net&gt;<BR>&gt; Date: 2002/12/18 Wed PM =
10:31:53=20
  EST<BR>&gt; To: "Ryan H" &lt;rhock99@epix.net&gt;, <BR>&gt;=20
  &lt;scirocco-l@scirocco.org&gt;<BR>&gt; Subject: Re: Is this possible =
as my=20
  problem?<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Fuel pump relay?&nbsp; This same thing =
happened to=20
  the MkI the second day we had it.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; =
Larry<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  ----- Original Message ----- <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; From: Ryan H=20
  <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Sent:=20
  Wednesday, December 18, 2002 7:08 PM<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Subject: Is =
this=20
  possible as my problem?<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; My 16V, =
which=20
  likes to run in limp-mode most of the time, took a real shit the other =

  night... It lost power while I was driving it like usual (feels like =
when you=20
  switch on the AC, only much more abrupt).&nbsp; SO I downshifted and =
gave it=20
  throttle... NOTHING, not even a noise. (Lights were still on as if =
engine was=20
  NOT stalled.)&nbsp; Downshifted again, and it just stalled as I rolled =
to a=20
  stop.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; So, could it be a fuel related problem - =
like=20
  something clogging a line somewhere, then floating away (when power =
comes=20
  back, or when I shut the car off).&nbsp; There is no stuttering to my =
car, the=20
  timing just gets pulled.&nbsp; Would a fuel clog cause my timing to be =
pulled=20
  - I thought it would just make the car stutter???<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;=20
  <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  _______________________________________________<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Fuel pump relay?&nbsp; This same =
thing happened=20
  to the MkI the second day we had it.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Larry</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV=20
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Drhock99@epix.net href=3D"mailto:rhock99@epix.net";>Ryan =
H</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 18, =
2002 7:08=20
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Is this possible as =
my=20
    problem?</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>My 16V, which likes to run in limp-mode most of the =
time,=20
    took a real shit the other night... It lost power while I was =
driving it=20
    like usual (feels like when you switch on the AC, only much more=20
    abrupt).&nbsp; SO I downshifted and gave it throttle... NOTHING, not =
even a=20
    noise. (Lights were still on as if engine was NOT stalled.)&nbsp;=20
    Downshifted again, and it just stalled as I rolled to a stop.<BR>So, =
could=20
    it be a fuel related problem - like something clogging a line =
somewhere,=20
    then floating away (when power comes back, or when I shut the car=20
    off).&nbsp; There is no stuttering to my car, the timing just gets=20
    pulled.&nbsp; Would a fuel clog cause my timing to be pulled - I =
thought it=20
    would just make the car=20
    =
stutter???<BR><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>=
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