spin recovery

[rocco_crossing@hotmail.com (Rhett Farnum)]

I have to agree Al. I drove my first autoX in oct. It was awesome. I could 
not believe how my cutlass handled, and what I learned about driving.

Peace Out,

Rhett
Rocco_crossing
'83 Rocco (autocross ready, body work needed)
'92 Olds Cutlass Ciera (DD)



>From: "Scirocco-Al" <scirocco-Al@insight.rr.com>
>Reply-To: "Scirocco-Al" <scirocco-Al@insight.rr.com>
>To: "L F" <rocco16v@netzero.net>, "Jorel Jackson" <jorel140@yahoo.com>,   
>"volkswagen scirocco" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>Subject: Re: spin recovery
>Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 21:24:45 -0500
>
>If she went that far and caused that much damage to the car then she was
>just going to fast for the conditions.  As far what to do to correct for 
>the
>skid it depends on what the car is doing.  Usually by the time you think it
>through it's to late to do anything anyway.  You really need to respond
>naturally to the situation to regain control.  Like I said, if you are
>thinking about what to do then your wasting too much time and your chances
>of reganing control are about zero.
>
>I would suggest that you find a local auto-cross and run a few events to
>learn how your car handles and to get a better instinct of what to do is
>these types of situations.  I would also discourage asking most other 
>people
>(excluding the gearheads on this list of course) of how do drive a car.  
>The
>amount of skill it takes to get a drivers license over here is pitiful and
>the knowledge of 99.5% of the public scares the living hell out of me.  I
>read somewhere that it cost over $7000 to get a permit in germany and that
>in either Spain or France that 66% of the people who try to get a license
>fail.  I don't think that we need to be that strict but I beleive that 
>basic
>vehicle dynamis and car control should be taught.  Not learned by driving
>like an idiot on someback road like most people, myself included.
>
>Usually at the beginning of the Solo 2 year most areas have a drivers
>school.  If you could find one of those then it would be the best $25 
>you've
>ever spent on your car.
>
>Alan
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: L F
>   To: Jorel Jackson ; volkswagen scirocco
>   Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 7:23 PM
>   Subject: Re: spin recovery
>
>
>   What she should have done is slow down before she got to the ice.  Once
>you lose control on ice, you probably won't get it back.
>
>   (okay, I live in San Diego, but I grew up in Kansas and lived in 
>Michigan
>for seven winters....it freezes in both places)
>
>   Larry
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Jorel Jackson
>     To: volkswagen scirocco
>     Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 6:52 AM
>     Subject: OT: spin recovery
>
>
>     My wife recently crashed her Neon into a ditch. The
>     momentum carried her through swampy area. She cut a
>     swath through these cattails and received about $4k of
>     damage to her Neon. She came out shaken, but otherwise
>     all right. This happened because she hit a patch of
>     ice and lost control. After it was over she asked what
>     she should have done. I told her to press down firmly
>     on the ABS brakes and steer where she wanted to go,
>     hopefully away from that steep ditch. She told others
>     this, and they said I was wrong. They had no other
>     remedy, except to stay off those brakes. Was I wrong?
>
>     =====
>     Jorel Jackson
>     web site:  http://www.home.earthlink.net/~jomoj/
>     1987 16V Scirocco
>     2000 Neon ES
>     Ranger XLT
>
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