[tech]: dropping an engine w/o a hoist?

[rapieper@yahoo.com ('Cheapass' Ron Pieper)]

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Ron
--- Brian McGarvey <brianm@earendel.org> wrote:
> IMPORTANT NOTE SAFETY WARNING..
> FAILURE TO FOLLOW CAN RESULT IN EXTREME PAIN, INJURY OR attempted
> DEATH.
> 
> When using this method to remove the motor. Make sure you loop the
> nylon
> straps about the 2x4 mount several times more than 10 (2-3 time
> doesnt
> have enough friction to hold). while your getting
> everything loose. once everything is loose. Remember you forgot
> something.
> the rear motor mount WILL get hung somewhere in the back of the
> engine
> compartment.
> 
> <story>
> My paranoia saved my ass. we had the motor loose of all the bolts. I
> had a
> single or double loop followed with a clove hitch figuring it'd hold.
> as
> long as ron held onto the straps... well I forgot to tell ron he
> needed to
> hang on to em. so i look underneath and see the rear motor mount hung
> on
> the bracket. I get ron to hand me a big ass screwdriver you know the
> 2.5
> foot one. my head is in the wheel well i go poking around and the 8v
> engine w/ tranny comes loose and FALLS with great acceration 9.8m/s^2
> -
> some small friction given by the nylon straps. I dropped everything
> and
> got out as fast as i could... the only thing that was injured was me
> from
> hittng the car. it could have been my head under the tranny. (oh yeah
> that
> got me a little on the arm.) Paranoia taught me never to put my head
> under
> large heavy objects that dont have metal holdin em in place.... Ive
> done
> junkyard diving too much to risk shit like that.
> </story>
> 
> anyway.
> when you build your 2x4 truss above the car. in an H pattern. so that
> it
> fits inside the fenders on the fender rails. (see Ron's and other
> ppls).
> Ratcheting motorcycle straps make raising a motor easy. use at least
> 3 4
> is better and you can get them at WalMart. the 1" wide ones.
> 
> Lowering the motor.
> while the motor is still in place wrap the straps around the
> engine/tranny
> assy. while the motor is still firmly attacted. in at least 2 places.
> then
> make several loops with each strap around the 2x4 cross truss. then
> take
> the ends and attach them to an immoveable object like the tow hook on
> your other A1 or telephone pole etc. if you have nothing to attach it
> to
> just wrap it like 10 time or so making sure to wrap it across itself
> to
> provide additional friction.
> 
> Put a floor jack / jack stands under the motor incase something
> unexpected
> happens.
> 
> remove motor mounts (im assuming that is all that is left) Remove the
> bracket that the rear mount mounts to as well. thats what almost
> killed
> me.
> 
> get the hell out from underneath.
> 
> put an old tire underneath (no rim) or plywood etc.
> 
> remove underneath supports with somehting other than a body part.
> 
> check to make sure the straps are holding.
> 
> find out where the motor is hung.
> 
> shake like mad.
> 
> motor will loosen then drop some distance. the reason you are using
> nylon
> is that it streches. and will slow it without damaging anything.
> 
> at this point the ends of the straps should be disconnected from the
> immovable object. or the somebody should get in the car and slowly
> let the
> motor down.
> 
> if the motor fails to drop undo one loop at a time on each strap
> until the
> motor slides down slowly.
> or get out of the way and let go.
> 
> scirocco love.
> Brian
> 2.0L topless bunny
> secret project -- plannin stage
> 88 16v mushed front end
> 87 white 16v RI 2D Piecs
> 88 red 16v RIPieces -- buy my shit..
> 81 white 8v.. sold
> 
> 
>  On Sat, 31 Aug 2002, 'Cheapass' Ron Pieper wrote:
> 
> > Yes, the two 2x4's across the fenders will work fine, with some
> nylon
> > straps...Big Mac and I used motorcycle tie downs.  That's because
> my
> > hoist is at Daun's.
> >
> > Engine removal was quick, after getting all mounts and obstructions
> > free it took about 9.81 m/s2 over maybe a foot.  Ask Brian.   ;)
> >
> > Engine install was step by step raising into place with the straps
> and
> > 2x4's.  That's what I'll be doing when I install my 2.0L.
> >
> > Ron
> >
> > --- Michael Abatzis <abatzis2@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > i'm thinking about doing some parting this weekend; i think once
> i
> > > get the
> > > engine out i'll feel like i'm accomplishing something. anyway, i
> have
> > > no
> > > engine lift and am wondering the best way to get it out. drop out
> the
> > > bottom
> > > obviously, but how? i'm thinking about some rope wrapped a couple
> of
> > > times
> > > around a pair of 2x4s (like you can do with the tranny), with a
> jack
> > > underneath. lower the jack all the way, and use the 2x4s for the
> > > rest. or
> > > actually i can just prop the 2x4s on something, and use 2 people
> to
> > > lower it
> > > the rest of the way, if that makes any sense. keep in mind the
> car is
> > >
> > > wrecked, so breaking things isn't a huge concern. and no, i don't
> > > have a
> > > sawzall...tia,
> > >
> > > -Michael Abatzis
> > > Hotlanta! GA
> > > 1988 Scirocco 2L 16v RIP-->parting, web site up soon!
> > > 1987 Scirocco 2L 16v...
> > >
> > >
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