F/S: Not mine (was: 87 16-valve problems)

[jtoomasson@yahoo.com (Jeff Toomasson)]

Nice examples can still be had. Several people on this list have traveled
great distances to obtain a nice one.

I work in Hayward and could check it out if anyone is interested.

http://www.craigslist.org/sfo/eby/car/5346966.html

JT
----- Original Message -----
From: "William M. Davidson" <grateful@plato.nmia.com>
To: "Jeff Toomasson" <jtoomasson@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: 87 16-valve problems


> Thanks for your reply.
>
> I should have been more clear about the "front end".  You were correct:
New
> Struts, bushings, tie rod.  Fender and frame original.  Best I can tell
there
> has been never been any collisions.
>
> The paint is actually in good shape.  It has been garaged part of its
life.
>
> Some "high performance" goodies have been added like brakes and brake
lines
> but they have little value to me.
>
> Sciroccos and vanagons are in short supply around here.  I have been
looking
> for a vanagon for about 6 months.  I am on the vanagon list and found many
> on the east and west coast but none around here.  So I decided to check
out
> Sciroccos.  The one that was for sale in Colorado recently sold the day
> after he posted it on the list.  They were asking $1800.
>
> >
> > William - there's no way you should pay even $2000 for that car judging
by
> > what you've said. My guess is also, that if you live in NM, the paint's
not
> > in the best of shape.
> >
> > "front end redone" requires a little further definition. Struts?
bushings?
> > Bearings? Fender and frame pulled and straightened? It sounds good to
the
> > average car buyer, but it's a rather vague statement.
> >
> > The mechanical problem could a simple needing of a tune-up, but you
should
> > use the fact that it's running somewhat poorly to your advantage. This
> > should be an automatic bargaining chip. No stereo either?
> >
> > Are there any other goodies? Euro bumpers or lights? Aftermarket wheels?
> >
> > If you're patient enough, you'll find one in better condition for less.
> >
> > Another thing is (although not the most convenient) people on this list
sell
> > their sciroccos every so often or will alert the list when there's one
in
> > their neck of the woods and would be willing to look at it for you...
> >
> > Just don't run out and buy the first one you see, HTH,
> >
> > Jeff
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "William M. Davidson" <grateful@plato.nmia.com>
> > To: "rocco" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 9:30 AM
> > Subject: 87 16-valve problems
> >
> >
> > > I am considering purchasing an 87 scirocco that has the 16-valve
engine.
> > > 147,000 miles on the clock.  I was impressed with the car in general.
> > > Sure, it has some small problems like a cracked dash that looks
horrible
> > > but that can be covered.  Front end has just been completely redone.
No
> > > bad dents or rust.  Seats and rest of interior in good shape.  No
radio
> > > or AC.
> > >
> > > The only major problem is that the engine hunts to find the 1k idle
RPM
> > when
> > > coming to a stop.  Also, after it warms up to what I assume is the
normal
> > > operating temperature, it randomly misses.  Sometimes at idle,
sometimes
> > > when accelerating.  It does it both with soft and hard acceleration.
> > > I am guessing it may be the ignition.  Just a hunch.  Of course it may
be
> > > in the fuel system (dirty injectors?) or many other places.
> > >
> > > I have been on this list for a short time and I have not seen this
problem
> > > mentioned yet.  If it is a common problem and others have found a
> > solution,
> > > please share it with me.
> > >
> > > By the way, they are asking $2400.  That seems high even with the
engine
> > > running perfectly.  Assuming the engine problem can be fixed without
much
> > > cost, what do you think would be a fair price?  I am thinking about
$2000.
> > >
> > > Thanks for any information you can pass on to me.
> > >
> > > --
> > > William M. Davidson
> > > grateful@nmia.com
> > >
> > > 1704 Blume, NE
> > > Albuquerque, NM 87112
> > > 505 294 4571
> > >
> > > Too many people spend money they haven't earned, to buy things they
don't
> > > want, to impress people they don't like. -Will Rogers
> > >
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> >
>
>
> --
> William M. Davidson
> grateful@nmia.com
>
> 1704 Blume, NE
> Albuquerque, NM 87112
> 505 294 4571
>
> Too many people spend money they haven't earned, to buy things they don't
> want, to impress people they don't like. -Will Rogers