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Using A2 rear Disks upside down on A1 Drum upgrade.

Subject: Using A2 rear Disks upside down on A1 Drum upgrade.
From: ranahan@charter.net (John Erickson)
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 14:37:07 -0700
In-reply-to: <F201KGTkp5XFTbkdnYH0000328d@hotmail.com>
Come on, guys, read the other posts.  Potter has new A3 Driver's Edition 
(red) rear calipers with carriers and pads in his blowout section for $85.

John.
Long Beach.


At 04:57 PM 8/10/2002 -0400, Brad Sayer wrote:
>I would if I could remember!  Its some obscure website.  Soemone else on 
>this list a while ago provided the link.  Don't remember who that was.
>Anyone?   We both bought from this place.  I will see what I can dig up, 
>and I will let the list know...
>
>Brad
>
>87 16V
>
>
>
>>From: "Walter D. Leonard III" <wleonard1@carolina.rr.com>
>>To: "Brad Sayer" <volksrocco@hotmail.com>
>>Subject: Re: Using A2 rear Disks upside down on A1 Drum upgrade.
>>Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 12:00:54 -0400
>>
>>Well tell us where you bought them, don't be shy!!!
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Brad Sayer" <volksrocco@hotmail.com>
>>To: <ranahan@charter.net>; <ralexander03@snet.net>;
>><amalventano1@comcast.net>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>>Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 11:41 AM
>>Subject: Re: Using A2 rear Disks upside down on A1 Drum upgrade.
>>
>>
>> > If you search around enough, you can find brand new A3 calipers for more
>> > like 70-80.  I paid about 70 each for mine.
>> >
>> > Brad
>> >
>> > 87 16V
>> >
>> >
>> > >From: "John Erickson" <ranahan@charter.net>
>> > >To: "Rick Alexander" <ralexander03@snet.net>,"Allyn"
>> > ><amalventano1@comcast.net>, "John Erickson" <ranahan@charter.net>,
>> > >"Scirocco List" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>> > >Subject: Re: Using A2 rear Disks upside down on A1 Drum upgrade.
>> > >Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 18:01:05 -0400
>> > >
>> > >New A1 rear calipers are $150.  Rebuilt ones usually don't have
>>functioning
>> > >e-brake mechanisms.  If you replace the pads on an A1 caliper, be
>>prepared
>> > >to pump the brake pedal at least 40 times (per the Bentley) and have to
>> > >drive at least a week to get the self-adjusting mechanism to "settle in."
>> > >
>> > >New A3 calipers are $110.  Rebuilt units are fully functional.  The
>> > >self-adjusting mechanism has the pads against the rotors in 10-20 pumps
>>of
>> > >the pedal and they are set.
>> > >
>> > >I think my car stops better with the A3 rear caliper.  The main reason I
>> > >made the switch was money, though.  My old ones were shot.
>> > >
>> > >John
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >On Fri, 9 Aug 2002 17:37:40 -0400
>> > >  "Rick Alexander" <ralexander03@snet.net> wrote:
>> > >>I too have the original calipers on Rolling Roc (1/4 million miles
>>plus).
>> > >>Some of the A1 calipers have trouble with the E-brake seizing up
>>(usually
>> > >>in
>> > >>the stop mode).
>> > >>
>> > >>Rick Alexander
>> > >>http://www.brubakerbox.com
>> > >>http://clubs.hemmings.com/hams/
>> > >>http://clubs.hemmings.com/vwsrus/
>> > >>
>> > >>----- Original Message -----
>> > >>From: "Allyn" <amalventano1@comcast.net>
>> > >>To: "John Erickson" <ranahan@charter.net>; "Rick Alexander"
>> > >><ralexander03@snet.net>; "Scirocco List" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>> > >>Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 5:41 PM
>> > >>Subject: Re: Using A2 rear Disks upside down on A1 Drum upgrade.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>>wait a sec, whats all this rear caliper rambling. i've had 8 sciroccos,
>> > >>half of which had rear
>> > >>>discs, and i changed pads at least once on all 4 of the disc-equipped
>> > >>cars. i never had any trouble
>> > >>>at all. what did i miss?
>> > >>>Al
>> > >>>
>> > >>>Allyn Malventano, ETC(SS), USN
>> > >>>87 Rieger GTO Scirocco 16v (daily driver, 180k, rocco #6)
>> > >>>86 Kamei Twin 16V Turbo Scirocco GTX ('it has begun', rocco #7)
>> > >>>86.5 Occo 16v Trailer (dotting 'i's across the country, rocco #8)
>> > >>>87 Jetta 8v Wolfsburg 2dr (daily driver, 260k, 0 rattles, original
>> > >>>clutch,
>> > >>driveshafts, wheels :)
>> > >>>
>> > >>>----- Original Message -----
>> > >>>From: "John Erickson" <ranahan@charter.net>
>> > >>>To: "Rick Alexander" <ralexander03@snet.net>; "Scirocco List"
>> > >><scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>> > >>>Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 5:28 PM
>> > >>>Subject: Re: Using A2 rear Disks upside down on A1 Drum upgrade.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> > ANYTHING is better than the A1 caliper.  The Scirocco 16v
>> > >>> > rear caliper was the first rear caliper on any VW.
>> > >>> >  Apparently VW learned a lot in ten years.  I'm sure happy
>> > >>> > with my A3s.
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > John
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > On Fri, 9 Aug 2002 17:06:38 -0400
>> > >>> >   "Rick Alexander" <ralexander03@snet.net> wrote:
>> > >>> > >My understanding is that the A2 and A3 mount the same way
>> > >>> > >but that the
>> > >>> > >problems were not solved until the A3 which is why they
>> > >>> > >are the desirable
>> > >>> > >units to get for an upgrade. But then again... you have
>> > >>> > >the A2's
>> > >>> > >
>> > >>> > >Rick Alexander
>> > >>> > >http://www.brubakerbox.com
>> > >>> > >http://clubs.hemmings.com/hams/
>> > >>> > >http://clubs.hemmings.com/vwsrus/
>> > >>> > >
>> > >>> > >----- Original Message -----
>> > >>> > >From: "T Berk" <tberk@mindspring.com>
>> > >>> > >To: "Scirocco List" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>> > >>> > >Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 4:28 PM
>> > >>> > >Subject: Using A2 rear Disks upside down on A1 Drum
>> > >>> > >upgrade.
>> > >>> > >
>> > >>> > >
>> > >>> > >>
>> > >>> > >>
>> > >>> > >> I understand you can use A3 rear disk calipers on A1
>> > >>> > >>chassis cars (I
>> > >>> > >> have an 81 Scirocco) as I know a guy who did it.
>> > >>> > >>
>> > >>> > >> My question is whether the A2 & A3 calipers are close
>> > >>> > >>enough to
>> > >>> > >> interchange, in terms of mounting points, etc.?
>> > >>> > >>
>> > >>> > >> I also understand the A3 units have corrected allot of
>> > >>> > >>the problems with
>> > >>> > >> parking brake binding that have plagued A1 rear disks in
>> > >>> > >>the past (16v).
>> > >>> > >>
>> > >>> > >> It would be better to buy new but I have an 86 GTI
>> > >>> > >>awaiting de-parting
>> > >>> > >> in the backyard already.
>> > >>> > >>
>> > >>> > >> Lastly, for those who don't know- the idea is the later
>> > >>> > >>calipers bolt
>> > >>> > >> up, but you need to swap the left and right sides and in
>> > >>> > >>doing so flip
>> > >>> > >> the caliper around so that the bleeding screw is now
>> > >>> > >>positioned upside
>> > >>> > >> down. Of course this would seem to be counterproductive
>> > >>> > >>but once bled
>> > >>> > >> (lines connected but caliper unbolted from axle) they
>> > >>> > >>don't need anymore
>> > >>> > >> use of the bleeder until it's major work time again
>> > >>> > >>anyway.
>> > >>> > >>
>> > >>> > >> tia,
>> > >>> > >> TBerk
>> > >>> > >>
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