Using A2 rear Disks upside down on A1 Drum upgrade.

[volksrocco@hotmail.com (Brad Sayer)]

If you search around enough, you can find brand new A3 calipers for more 
like 70-80.  I paid about 70 each for mine.

Brad

87 16V


>From: "John Erickson" <ranahan@charter.net>
>To: "Rick Alexander" <ralexander03@snet.net>,"Allyn" 
><amalventano1@comcast.net>, "John Erickson" <ranahan@charter.net>,   
>"Scirocco List" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>Subject: Re: Using A2 rear Disks upside down on A1 Drum upgrade.
>Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 18:01:05 -0400
>
>New A1 rear calipers are $150.  Rebuilt ones usually don't have functioning 
>e-brake mechanisms.  If you replace the pads on an A1 caliper, be prepared 
>to pump the brake pedal at least 40 times (per the Bentley) and have to 
>drive at least a week to get the self-adjusting mechanism to "settle in."
>
>New A3 calipers are $110.  Rebuilt units are fully functional.  The 
>self-adjusting mechanism has the pads against the rotors in 10-20 pumps of 
>the pedal and they are set.
>
>I think my car stops better with the A3 rear caliper.  The main reason I 
>made the switch was money, though.  My old ones were shot.
>
>John
>
>
>
>
>On Fri, 9 Aug 2002 17:37:40 -0400
>  "Rick Alexander" <ralexander03@snet.net> wrote:
>>I too have the original calipers on Rolling Roc (1/4 million miles plus).
>>Some of the A1 calipers have trouble with the E-brake seizing up (usually 
>>in
>>the stop mode).
>>
>>Rick Alexander
>>http://www.brubakerbox.com
>>http://clubs.hemmings.com/hams/
>>http://clubs.hemmings.com/vwsrus/
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Allyn" <amalventano1@comcast.net>
>>To: "John Erickson" <ranahan@charter.net>; "Rick Alexander"
>><ralexander03@snet.net>; "Scirocco List" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>>Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 5:41 PM
>>Subject: Re: Using A2 rear Disks upside down on A1 Drum upgrade.
>>
>>
>>>wait a sec, whats all this rear caliper rambling. i've had 8 sciroccos,
>>half of which had rear
>>>discs, and i changed pads at least once on all 4 of the disc-equipped
>>cars. i never had any trouble
>>>at all. what did i miss?
>>>Al
>>>
>>>Allyn Malventano, ETC(SS), USN
>>>87 Rieger GTO Scirocco 16v (daily driver, 180k, rocco #6)
>>>86 Kamei Twin 16V Turbo Scirocco GTX ('it has begun', rocco #7)
>>>86.5 Occo 16v Trailer (dotting 'i's across the country, rocco #8)
>>>87 Jetta 8v Wolfsburg 2dr (daily driver, 260k, 0 rattles, original 
>>>clutch,
>>driveshafts, wheels :)
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "John Erickson" <ranahan@charter.net>
>>>To: "Rick Alexander" <ralexander03@snet.net>; "Scirocco List"
>><scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>>>Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 5:28 PM
>>>Subject: Re: Using A2 rear Disks upside down on A1 Drum upgrade.
>>>
>>>
>>> > ANYTHING is better than the A1 caliper.  The Scirocco 16v
>>> > rear caliper was the first rear caliper on any VW.
>>> >  Apparently VW learned a lot in ten years.  I'm sure happy
>>> > with my A3s.
>>> >
>>> > John
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, 9 Aug 2002 17:06:38 -0400
>>> >   "Rick Alexander" <ralexander03@snet.net> wrote:
>>> > >My understanding is that the A2 and A3 mount the same way
>>> > >but that the
>>> > >problems were not solved until the A3 which is why they
>>> > >are the desirable
>>> > >units to get for an upgrade. But then again... you have
>>> > >the A2's
>>> > >
>>> > >Rick Alexander
>>> > >http://www.brubakerbox.com
>>> > >http://clubs.hemmings.com/hams/
>>> > >http://clubs.hemmings.com/vwsrus/
>>> > >
>>> > >----- Original Message -----
>>> > >From: "T Berk" <tberk@mindspring.com>
>>> > >To: "Scirocco List" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>>> > >Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 4:28 PM
>>> > >Subject: Using A2 rear Disks upside down on A1 Drum
>>> > >upgrade.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> I understand you can use A3 rear disk calipers on A1
>>> > >>chassis cars (I
>>> > >> have an 81 Scirocco) as I know a guy who did it.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> My question is whether the A2 & A3 calipers are close
>>> > >>enough to
>>> > >> interchange, in terms of mounting points, etc.?
>>> > >>
>>> > >> I also understand the A3 units have corrected allot of
>>> > >>the problems with
>>> > >> parking brake binding that have plagued A1 rear disks in
>>> > >>the past (16v).
>>> > >>
>>> > >> It would be better to buy new but I have an 86 GTI
>>> > >>awaiting de-parting
>>> > >> in the backyard already.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Lastly, for those who don't know- the idea is the later
>>> > >>calipers bolt
>>> > >> up, but you need to swap the left and right sides and in
>>> > >>doing so flip
>>> > >> the caliper around so that the bleeding screw is now
>>> > >>positioned upside
>>> > >> down. Of course this would seem to be counterproductive
>>> > >>but once bled
>>> > >> (lines connected but caliper unbolted from axle) they
>>> > >>don't need anymore
>>> > >> use of the bleeder until it's major work time again
>>> > >>anyway.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> tia,
>>> > >> TBerk
>>> > >>
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