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Subject: Fuel infection woes
From: Indiana_Red@hotmail.com (Ken B)
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 20:51:37 -0600
References: <web-981067@dc-mxdb03.cluster1.charter.net>
I have similar symptoms on my 16v transplant.  Im afraid to ask how much
they are?......
Ken
1979 Scirocco  "McFly"
16v conversion "...it's working....It's WORKING...!"
tracing electrical gremlins now...
VORTEX:  "Indiana Red"
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Erickson" <ranahan@charter.net>
To: "Euroroc II" <flaatr@yahoo.com>; "Elijah R" <nicadimus@hotmail.com>;
<scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: Fuel infection woes


> Before my ICM failed, my tach used to bounce off idle.
>  The engine seemed to run fine, but the tach would bounce
> up a couple hundred RPM.  As it got worse (ICM), the tach
> bounced more often and the fuel pump relay started
> clicking.
>
> I have had so much trouble with the ICMs, I think
> I&#8217;m going to keep a spare around.
>
> John
>
>
>
> On Wed, 07 Aug 2002 13:09:41 -0700
>   Euroroc II <flaatr@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Ignition module is the small black puck on a heat sink
> >near the Jetronic box...
> >
> >Tell me more about the tach jumping thing, you got my
> >attention. My car is running fine but at around 3K to
> >3.5K my tach seems to get a bit confused and hesitates.
> >If I am holding steady speed the tach will wander around
> >+/-200 RPM in this area. All other points on the tach are
> >fine and there is no loss of power thru the band.
> >
> >Kinda interesting to accelerate and watch the tach go up,
> >up , up, back a little, up a little, back a little, Oops
> >gotta go up, up, up and up. Entertaining and unsettling
> >at the same time.
> >
> >Any Ideas?
> >
> >-Raffi
> >
> >At 03:43 PM 8/7/02 -0400, you wrote:
> >>hey I just remembered my tach does the jumpy thing too.
> >>hmmmm
> >>next where is the icm? is it the box up by the whiper
> >>motors? I have spare on of those.
> >>
> >>
> >>>From: "John Erickson" <ranahan@charter.net>
> >>>To: "Jeff Toomasson" <jtoomasson@yahoo.com>,"John
> >>>Erickson" <ranahan@charter.net>,
> >>>     <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> >>>Subject: Re: Fuel infection woes
> >>>Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 15:10:01 -0400
> >>>
> >>>Ignition Control Module.  Among other things, the "on"
> >>>signal for the fuel pump relay starts there and runs
> >>>through the knock box before it finally gets to the
> >>>relay.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>One of mine was heat sensitive.  The car ran fine cold,
> >>>but as soon as the ICM got warm, it started cutting out.
> >>>it finally just shut off.
> >>>
> >>>I had another one fail right out of the box (it was new).
> >>>The tach was bouncing all over the place and the fuel
> >>>pump relay was clicking faster than a blinker relay.  The
> >>>relay was eventually off more than on and the car ran out
> >>>of fuel.
> >>>
> >>>HTH (at least its another option).
> >>>John
> >>>Long Beach
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>On Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:38:08 -0700
> >>> "Jeff Toomasson" <jtoomasson@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>ICM?
> >>>>
> >>>>Idle Control Module?
> >>>>
> >>>>inquiring minds want to know!  (well, maybe just my
> >>>>feeble one!  :)
> >>>>
> >>>>JT
> >>>>
> >>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "John Erickson"
> >>>><ranahan@charter.net>
> >>>>To: "Elijah R" <nicadimus@hotmail.com>;
> >>>><scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> >>>>Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 10:51 AM
> >>>>Subject: Re: Fuel infection woes
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>I had a problem with mine stuttering.  I replaced lots of
> >>>>>stuff.  Most of it needed replacing anyway.  Then the car
> >>>>>completely died.  It was the ICM ($40, new).  When I
> >>>>>replaced it, the car not only ran again, but the
> >>>>>stuttering was gone as well.  It only took me a year to
> >>>>>find it. :).
> >>>>>
> >>>>>John
> >>>>>Long Beach
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>On Wed, 07 Aug 2002 11:58:15 -0400
> >>>>>  "Elijah R" <nicadimus@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>Well I am about at wits end with my car stuttering @2800
> >>>>>>>Rpm. I
> >>>>>can't seem to get my finger on the cause, new >pumps, new
> >>>>>injectors,
> >>>>>new ignition, new filter, new >vacume lines, re-timed a
> >>>>>dozen times.
> >>>>>Who out there has >converted to carbs and can anyone
> >>>>>recomend a
> >>>>>sidedraft >setup for the 16V. A few of my MKI's I had a
> >>>>>two
> >>>>>barrel >weber that traveled from car to car with me and
> >>>>>they
> >>>>>ran >nicely, my mechanic had some delorto's that I was
> >>>>>envious >of cuz
> >>>>>his MKI was faster than mine. But after being out >of
> >>>>>vw's for several
> >>>>>years maybe there is some thing >bigger better bader out
> >>>>>there on the
> >>>>>market now. I've >seen a few pics wiht some nice setups.
> >>>>>Any input
> >>>>>would be >much apreiciated.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>F.Y.I  the digitizing of Dirk's schematic are going slowy
> >>>>>>>but surly,
> >>>>>the the profile is compleat and working on the >rear view
> >>>>>now. :)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Elijah
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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