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who's gonna be quicker?: Horney Devil vs Monster Rocc
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the first pic is not oversteer, second is though (lift throttle type). hey, i couldnt wag it too far out there, i was trying to beat rons time!
Al
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From: Larry
To: Allyn ; Josh Able ; Scott F. Williams ; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: who's gonna be quicker?: Horney Devil vs Monster Rocc
Hey, Al, I hate to tell you...but those are not pictures of a car that is, in any way, even close to being in an oversteering condition......
Larry
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From: Allyn
To: Josh Able ; Scott F. Williams ; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: who's gonna be quicker?: Horney Devil vs Monster Rocc
hey now, whats the matter with wide rear wheels???
http://scirocco.dhs.org/vw/pics/d-cincy-2k%2B2/imagepages/image170.htm
http://scirocco.dhs.org/vw/pics/d-cincy-2k%2B2/imagepages/image171.htm
see? it still can wag its butt if i want it to :)
(dont worry, josh, i got your back :)
Al
Allyn Malventano, ETC(SS), USN
87 Rieger GTO Scirocco 16v (daily driver, 180k, rocco #6)
86 Kamei Twin 16V Turbo Scirocco GTX ('it has begun', rocco #7)
86.5 Occo 16v Trailer (dotting 'i's across the country, rocco #8)
87 Jetta 8v Wolfsburg 2dr (daily driver, 260k, 0 rattles, original clutch, driveshafts, wheels :)
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From: Josh Able
To: Scott F. Williams ; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: who's gonna be quicker?: Horney Devil vs Monster Rocc
>Well, with those bigger rear wheels your car isn't optimized for turns, either. And, I *know* you're not shying away from that!
Im pretty sure I've already stated I would change my wheels if I ever take it out on LimeRock/etc, but for the driving I do the wheels are fine, its not like I built a car to be used as a race car.
I like to have fun with my car, I have zero interest about dragging it that isn't fun to me. I don't need to prove Im faster, if I wanted that title I would have my car set up for whatever style racing I want to do. Instead I have it built for exactly what style driving I do want it for. :P
Josh Able
"If you're already walking on thin ice, you might as well dance." -Gil Atkinson
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From: Scott F. Williams
To: Josh Able ; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 7:31 PM
Subject: RE: who's gonna be quicker?: Horney Devil vs Monster Rocc
Well, with those bigger rear wheels your car isn't optimized for turns, either. And, I *know* you're not shying away from that! Well regardless, what's wrong with your 1st gear? What spec transmission are you running? FYI, I'm expecting to launch in 2nd gear, myself. With those tree stump-pulling 4.25 ring & pinion gears my car should also be at a definite disadvantage at the strip.
Just get out there to see what you can do regardlss of how competitive you are! There's always going to be somebody out there who can hand you your arse, right? I just ran my first drag race on Friday night (16.091 in the Subaru) and got spanked each and every time. Well, that's my perspective, anyway. Ish all good...
P.S. Through my rally connections in Ireland I can bring in genuine VW Motorsports 16v gear sets. Maybe you need a taller 1st and 2nd? Just say the word and I can arrange it for ya. (That offer is extended to anybody else, too.)
--
Scott F. Williams
NJ Scirocco nut
'99 Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS
Mazda 323 GTX turbo "assaulted" vehicle
Golf GTI 16v "rollycar"
ClubVAC: "Roads found. Drivers wanted."
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From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org [mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Josh Able
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 7:16 PM
To: Scott F. Williams; UrGTI@aol.com; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Subject: Re: who's gonna be quicker?: Horney Devil vs Monster Rocc
wasn't built for drags, hell I don't have a 1st gear that is worth a hoot, all I use it for (and this is the way I like it) is to get to 2nd.
any grandmother in a yugo can take me off the line.
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>the first pic is not oversteer, second is though
(lift throttle type). hey, i couldnt wag it too far out there, i was trying to
beat rons time!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Al</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=rocco16v@netzero.com href="mailto:rocco16v@netzero.com";>Larry</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=amalventano1@comcast.net
href="mailto:amalventano1@comcast.net";>Allyn</A> ; <A title=mkii@nycap.rr.com
href="mailto:mkii@nycap.rr.com";>Josh Able</A> ; <A
title=sfwilliams@comcast.net href="mailto:sfwilliams@comcast.net";>Scott F.
Williams</A> ; <A title=scirocco-l@scirocco.org
href="mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org";>scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, August 04, 2002 10:34
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: who's gonna be quicker?:
Horney Devil vs Monster Rocc</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hey, Al, I hate to tell you...but those are not
pictures of a car that is, in any way, even close to being in an oversteering
condition......</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Larry</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=amalventano1@comcast.net
href="mailto:amalventano1@comcast.net";>Allyn</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=mkii@nycap.rr.com
href="mailto:mkii@nycap.rr.com";>Josh Able</A> ; <A
title=sfwilliams@comcast.net href="mailto:sfwilliams@comcast.net";>Scott F.
Williams</A> ; <A title=scirocco-l@scirocco.org
href="mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org";>scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, August 04, 2002 4:59
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: who's gonna be quicker?:
Horney Devil vs Monster Rocc</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>hey now, whats the matter with wide rear
wheels???</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><A
href="http://scirocco.dhs.org/vw/pics/d-cincy-2k%2B2/imagepages/image170.htm";>http://scirocco.dhs.org/vw/pics/d-cincy-2k%2B2/imagepages/image170.htm</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><A
href="http://scirocco.dhs.org/vw/pics/d-cincy-2k%2B2/imagepages/image171.htm";>http://scirocco.dhs.org/vw/pics/d-cincy-2k%2B2/imagepages/image171.htm</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>see? it still can wag its butt if i want it to
:)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(dont worry, josh, i got your back
:)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Al</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Allyn Malventano, ETC(SS), USN<BR>87 Rieger GTO
Scirocco 16v (daily driver, 180k, rocco #6)<BR>86 Kamei Twin 16V Turbo
Scirocco GTX ('it has begun', rocco #7)<BR>86.5 Occo 16v Trailer (dotting
'i's across the country, rocco #8)<BR>87 Jetta 8v Wolfsburg 2dr (daily
driver, 260k, 0 rattles, original clutch, driveshafts, wheels
:)<BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=mkii@nycap.rr.com href="mailto:mkii@nycap.rr.com";>Josh Able</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=sfwilliams@comcast.net
href="mailto:sfwilliams@comcast.net";>Scott F. Williams</A> ; <A
title=scirocco-l@scirocco.org
href="mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org";>scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, August 04, 2002 7:50
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: who's gonna be quicker?:
Horney Devil vs Monster Rocc</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><STRONG>></STRONG><SPAN
class=800551723-04082002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Well, with
those bigger rear wheels your car isn't optimized for turns, either. And,
I *know* you're not shying away from that!</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=800551723-04082002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=800551723-04082002>Im pretty sure I've already stated I would change
my wheels if I ever take it out on LimeRock/etc, but for the driving I do
the wheels are fine, its not like I built a car to be used as a race
car.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=800551723-04082002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=800551723-04082002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=800551723-04082002>I like to have fun with my car, I have zero
interest about dragging it that isn't fun to me. I don't need to prove Im
faster, if I wanted that title I would have my car set up for whatever
style racing I want to do. Instead I have it built for exactly what style
driving I do want it for. :P</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=800551723-04082002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=800551723-04082002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>Josh Able</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>"If you're already walking on thin ice, you might as well dance."
-Gil Atkinson <BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=sfwilliams@comcast.net
href="mailto:sfwilliams@comcast.net";>Scott F. Williams</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=mkii@nycap.rr.com
href="mailto:mkii@nycap.rr.com";>Josh Able</A> ; <A
title=scirocco-l@scirocco.org
href="mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org";>scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, August 04, 2002 7:31
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: who's gonna be
quicker?: Horney Devil vs Monster Rocc</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=800551723-04082002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Well, with those bigger rear wheels your car isn't optimized for
turns, either. And, I *know* you're not shying away from that! Well
regardless, what's wrong with your 1st gear? What spec transmission are
you running? FYI, I'm expecting to launch in 2nd gear, myself. With
those tree stump-pulling 4.25 ring & pinion gears my car should also
be at a definite disadvantage at the strip.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=800551723-04082002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=800551723-04082002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Just get out there to see what you can do regardlss of how
competitive you are! There's always going to be somebody out there who
can hand you your arse, right? I just ran my first drag race on Friday
night (16.091 in the Subaru) and got spanked each and every time. Well,
that's my perspective, anyway. Ish all good...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=800551723-04082002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=800551723-04082002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>P.S. Through my rally connections in Ireland I can bring in
genuine VW Motorsports 16v gear sets. Maybe you need a taller 1st and
2nd? Just say the word and I can arrange it for ya. (That offer is
extended to anybody else, too.)<BR></FONT></SPAN><FONT
size=2>--<BR>Scott F. Williams<BR>NJ Scirocco nut<BR>'99 Subaru Impreza
2.5 RS<BR>Mazda 323 GTX turbo "assaulted" vehicle<BR>Golf GTI 16v
"rollycar"<BR>ClubVAC: "Roads found. Drivers wanted."</FONT> </DIV>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org
[mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Josh
Able<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, August 04, 2002 7:16 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
Scott F. Williams; UrGTI@aol.com;
scirocco-l@scirocco.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: who's gonna be
quicker?: Horney Devil vs Monster Rocc<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=2>wasn't built for drags, hell I don't have a
1st gear that is worth a hoot, all I use it for (and this is the way I
like it) is to get to 2nd.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=2></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=2>any grandmother in a yugo can take me off
the
line.</FONT></STRONG></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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