[NOT MINE] FS: '88 16V Scirocco in PA

[jason@scirocco.org (Jason)]

Well, basically Allyn, you have to just be the most critical you possibly 
can.  The last time I inspected a car "for the list" was a little over a 
year ago.  I didn't drive it, but the guy said it was "absolutely perfect 
in every way".  Sheya right!  The car was nice, but it wasn't perfect.  The 
trick is to take a pad with you and note everything you see -- 
everything.  It should take you 2 minutes just to inspect the paint -- look 
at it from every angle and distance.  Down the sides of the car; don't 
forget the roof, etc.  Look in all door jambs and under every single seal 
for evidence of paint.  etc etc.  Below was the report I gave on that 
"perfect" car .

         I'll try to get down to Uniontown to inspect the other one over 
the weekend; I'll call him today.

Jason

 From July 11, 2001:
-------------------------
Details:

86 Scirocco 16V
Tornado Red, Cloth/Vinyl
No power package
Sunroof
VIN:  WVWCA0535GK029876
Odo:  114,192 miles.
Asking $3495.

My notes:
---------------------------------------------------
Paint is excellent, all original.  There is a 2" scratch on the passenger 
front fender down to the paint.  That is (as far as I could see) the _only_ 
imperfection in the paint.  I think there may have been rust repaired over 
the driver's door handle, but I'm not sure -- and that was the only 
suspected body filler I found.  No other dings or anything.  The car is 
really in great shape.

The sunroof doesn't line up properly and doesn't open.  Glovebox doesn't 
stay up.
All 4 rotors are badly rusted & pitted.  Rear calipers seem OK.
PIAA Fogs, one is cracked.
Small wear mark on driver's door panel arm rest.
OEM Radio with aftermarket CD-Changer mounted in glovebox, aftermarket F 
speakers.
Aftermarket shift boot.
Driver's inner CV joint recently replaced
Tires have good tread, Goodyear Eagle HP 195/60-14
Teardrops in VG condition
Bolsters are 100% perfect.
Rear hatch cover in _ok_ condition.
Bumpers are in great shape, small ding in rubber strip in front bumper.
OE Paint, OE Exhaust, OE Suspension.
PA Inspection through 06/02
No Cracks in dash.
Shift bushings good.
Side mount should be changed, engine vibrates; belt is supposedly new, but 
I'd replace it.
Started right up, but motor is dirty.
No stress marks on rear bumper mounts (i.e. never hit from behind).
All body parts align perfectly.
No sign of any re-painted areas.


At 05:07 PM 7/31/2002, Allyn wrote:
>aww yeea. give us some pointers, heh.
>Al
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jason" <jason@scirocco.org>
>To: "ATS - Patrick Bureau" <pbureau@attbi.com>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 2:53 PM
>Subject: RE: [NOT MINE] FS: '88 16V Scirocco in PA
>
>
> > Guys, I'm not too far from Uniontown if anyone is seriously interested in
> > it and wants me to look at it.  For those who don't know, I'm the most 
> anal
> > retentive bitch on the planet when it comes to tearing up used cars.  Just
> > ask Daun. :)
> > Jason
> >
> >
> >
> > At 02:34 PM 7/31/2002, ATS - Patrick Bureau wrote:
> > >humm..
> > >
> > >8500$ for a MINT 88, but the question is, what does not work on the car?
> > >then work the price down from that. alot of these single owner car thing
> > >their car will be worth thousands of $$ because , there is out there a
> > >following of scirocco.... Just experience this, guy wanted 2K then made it
> > >fall to 1.5K then1K he finally settled for 750$, go INSPECT the car, and
> > >make a list of items that are ripped, teared, need replacement, fixing and
> > >tabulate a cost, by the time you are done, that car MInt will not be worth
> > >more than 3-4K.
> > >
> > >also you said he poure 85 grand into the 82, I do think that you ment 85
> > >hundreds (8,500 not 85,000) because the laterr bumber seems a tad over
> > >zealous in repairs for a car worth 12K at the time.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >-------------------------------------------------------
> > >     __  __________
> > >    /  |/_ __/ ___/ Patrick Bureau
> > >   //| | / / \__ \  1985 8v Prowler Orange "Beatrice"
> > >  / _  |/ / ___/ /  1985 8v Titian Red "Lucky"
> > >/_/ |_/_/ /____/   http://www.longcoeur.com/scirocco
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >=>-----Original Message-----
> > >=>From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org
> > >=>[mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Michael Carlson
> > >=>Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 7:05 AM
> > >=>To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > >=>Subject: [NOT MINE] FS: '88 16V Scirocco in PA
> > >=>
> > >=>
> > >=>I was recently contacted by a fellow in Uniontown, PA who stumbled 
> upon my
> > >=>website.
> > >=>
> > >=>He's got a stock, pristine red Scirocco that he's thinking of
> > >=>selling so he
> > >=>can buy a plane.  (He's also got a wrecked gold '82 and a '75 Super 
> Beetle
> > >=>Convertible that needs restoration that he's looking to get rid of.)
> > >=>
> > >=>The '88 spends most of its time under the car cover in his garage, 
> and has
> > >=>only 24,424 miles on it.  He is the original owner.  I have a
> > >=>couple scanned
> > >=>Polaroids of the car, and it looks like a stock red 16V.  The pics don't
> > >=>really show any details, but it sounds like the car is mint.  He
> > >=>has no idea
> > >=>what a fair asking price is, but he's thinking of the $8500 
> range.  Sounds
> > >=>like he may negotiate.  Or, maybe he'll keep it if he doesn't like the
> > >=>offers he gets.  <shrug>
> > >=>
> > >=>Regarding the '82, here's what he sent me in an e-mail:  "On the 82, 
> I put
> > >=>around 85 grand on it and then gave it to my son ( mistake).  He
> > >=>said he was
> > >=>run off the road and hit a cement parking barrier at the high
> > >=>school, which
> > >=>in turn pushed a lot of the drivetrain back. This was about 15 or so 
> years
> > >=>ago, I think.  It's been sitting up in back of the garage ever 
> since.  The
> > >=>body is fairly good shape still and just about all the parts are still
> > >=>there.  Neighbor kids busted the windshield playing ball but
> > >=>everything else
> > >=>is still intact. It's the gold color with a manual trans. Trans and 
> motor
> > >=>still may be good. ...I don't have a digital camera but the dash is 
> pretty
> > >=>well shot. The fenders, doors and hatch seem good as are some of
> > >=>the smaller
> > >=>parts.  Also have a fairly new overhauled motor from an 85 with a rod
> > >=>through the block."
> > >=>
> > >=>Contact info:
> > >=>Dale Coddington
> > >=>dalec@helicon.net
> > >=>Uniontown, PA
> > >=>
> > >=>There ya have it.
> > >=>
> > >=>Mike Carlson
> > >=>'84 Scirocco Wolfsburg Edition
> > >=>'95 GTI VR6
> > >=>http://www.divergent.org/mikes.vws/
> > >=>
> > >=>
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