[tehc] engine swap

[pbureau@attbi.com (ATS - Patrick Bureau)]

Yeah I was not clear in my description of what I was thinking of doing..

Patrick

Nice to see we got on same page in very few emails.


=>-----Original Message-----
=>From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org
=>[mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Dan Bubb
=>Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 11:29 AM
=>To: Jonas K.
=>Cc: ATS - Patrick Bureau; scirocco list
=>Subject: Re: [tehc] engine swap
=>
=>
=>OK. I guess I wasn't clear.
=>I think going to the crossflow motor with its fuel injection, ignition
=>and wiring is more work than it's worth. The crossflow head isn't that
=>much better (especially after a P&P) than the GTI head.
=>OTOH, stuffing a 2.0 short block under the existing head, injection and
=>ignition is indeed the best BFB out there (after ditching the toilet
=>bowl manifold, of course!)
=>So, I think we're on the same page.
=>Dan
=>
=>"Jonas K." wrote:
=>>
=>> I may be biased, but I completely disagree with you Dan, The
=>2.0 is one of
=>> the greatest BFB mods that can be done. "There's no replacement for
=>> displacement."
=>>
=>> Sure, _STOCK_ ABA hp is 115. But _stock_ JH is 90. So that's 25hp right
=>> there. Not minor.
=>>
=>> Another way to look at it is that 2.0l is 11% more than 1.8
=>liters, so you'd
=>> expect 11% more power keeping everything else the same. Turns out that
=>> midrange torque improves the most.
=>>
=>> You'll obviously want to do everything that you'd do anyway:
=>4-2 EM, dual
=>> downpipe, good exhaust, cam of choice, larger TB, portmatching, etc.
=>>
=>> 140 - 150 hp is not that hard in the 2.0l 8v.
=>>
=>> My suggestion. Don't bother with the whole motor. I got just
=>the bottom end
=>> for $350 from a salvage yard, they pulled it. I'm sure you can
=>find it for
=>> less. Build up a head and assemble out of the car. Pull the old motor,
=>> transfer everything, and plop the new one in. Done in a weekend.
=>>
=>> Additional costs are the down pipe, the knocksensing ignition, and the
=>> distributor.
=>>
=>> Patrick, do it, you won't regret it. Turns into a no-brainer if you are
=>> going to have the motor out anyway.
=>>
=>> HTH,
=>> Jonas
=>> 78 Scirocco 1.8
=>> 85 Scirocco 2.0 <----- For Sale
=>> 90 Coupe Quattro 20v
=>>
=>> On 4/12/02 8:02 AM, "Dan Bubb" <jdbubb@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
=>>
=>> > Well, it isn't CIS or any variation of it. I guess Motronic.
=>> > Stock it'll get you 115 HP. About what your 1.8 8V would get with real
=>> > minor mods.
=>> > Not worth the effort unless you intend to do a bunch of mods to it and
=>> > in that case why not just do the mods to the engine you have?
=>> > just my $.02.
=>> > Dan
=>> >
=>> > ATS - Patrick Bureau wrote:
=>> >>
=>> >> OKay I found an engine, 98 Jetta 2.0L Crossflow (8v) is that
=>a monotronic
=>> >> engine or CIS/CISE?
=>> >> i was quote 550$ for a complete engine, is that a fair
=>price, and what HP
=>> >> should I expect out of it (only 37K on engine)
=>> >>
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