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RE: Differences between 8v and 16v

To: "dale witt" <dwitt1@satx.rr.com>,"Scirocco-L" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Subject: RE: Differences between 8v and 16v
From: "16volt" <scirocco16v@scirocco16v.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 02:56:13 -0700
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Differences...8V quick. 16V fast.

Shannon
www.scirocco16v.com

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org
[mailto:owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of dale witt
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 4:04 PM
To: Scirocco-L
Subject: Re: Differences between 8v and 16v


The 86.5 16v was introduced in this part of the country in June of 86.  You
could choose between red or black.  Silver and white was introduced in 87.

Dale
82 2.1 16v roc (Zender 400 w/NOS)
86.5 2.0 16v
85 1.8 GTI

----- Original Message -----
From: "16V Jason" <jason@scirocco.org>
To: "Scirocco-L" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 3:47 PM
Subject: RE: Differences between 8v and 16v


> At 04:38 PM 8/31/2001 , Neal Tovsen wrote:
>
> >I haven't heard of a white 86.5, but then again, I've only seen ONE 86.5
16v
> >ever. It was red, of course. :)
>
> Huh? Really!?
>
> Ben Harder's is an 86.5... But there are lots out there... or at least I
> thought there were.  Hmmmm..
>
> But yeah, AFAIKnew White was only 88... but there could have been some
late
> 87s that snuck in there.  Daun, do you know?
> Jason
>
>
>
> >Neal
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jason Cammisa [mailto:cammisa@element5.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 4:00 PM
> > > To: Neal Tovsen; 16V Jason; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > > Subject: RE: Differences between 8v and 16v
> > >
> > >
> > > They weren't until 1988, though, now were they? ;)
> > >
> > >
> > > In R/T's defense:
> > >
> > > They suck as a magazine -- but:
> > >          a.  They got the fastest 0-60 time from a 16V Roc (7.7s)
> > >          b.  They're not psyhic. :)
> > >
> > > hehe
> > > Jason
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > At 03:54 PM 8/31/2001 , Neal Tovsen wrote:
> > > >Of course, R/T also forgot that 16v's were available in White in the
USA.
> > > >
> > > >Neal
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > > > > [mailto:owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of 16V Jason
> > > > > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 10:21 AM
> > > > > To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: Differences between 8v and 16v
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Rich,
> > > > >          Some highlights from the magazines below.  For the
complete
> > > > > articles, go to www.scirocco16v.org and click on "Press"
> > > > >
> > > > > Jason
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > R/T:
> > > > > h body-color bumpers, air dam, mirrors, skirts, and cast-alloy
> > > > > wheels with
> > > > > sculptured holes that look as though they force cooling air to or
> > > > > from the
> > > > > brakes, depending on which side of the car they are no. There's
> > > > > also a new
> > > > > radio antenna at the back of the roof, sloping aft like an
aircraft
> > > > > antenna. Colors are limited to red, black, and silver.
> > > > >
> > > > > For the 16-valve, the springs are shorter and thus stiffer; the
rear
> > > > > anti-roll bar is larger and shock damping is increased. There's
also a
> > > > > cross-brace between the front suspension arms to increase lateral
> > > > > rigidity.
> > > > > Tire size is increased to 185/60HR-14 on 6-in. wheels. Braking
> > > > > performance
> > > > > has been improved by fitting 9.4-in. solid rear discs in place of
the
> > > > > standard car's drums, and enlargement to 10.1-in. of its vented
> > > > > front discs.
> > > > >
> > > > > Beneath the new twincam cylinder head, the Scirocco uses
Volkswagen's
> > > > > standard inline-4 modified with greater oil pump capacity and
special
> > > > > piston-cooling oil jets.
> > > > >
> > > > > C/D:
> > > > >
> > > > > The clutch and the gearbox have both been strengthened,
> > > though the gear
> > > > > ratios are largely unchanged (fifth gear has been lowered,
> > > from 0.89 to
> > > > > 0.91:1).
> > > > > All four springs and shocks have been recalibrated, and the
> > > nose has been
> > > > > lowered 0.4 inch
> > > > > Finally, the rear anti-roll bar has been enlarged from 0.8 to
> > > 1.0 inch in
> > > > > diameter.
> > > > >
> > > > > VW&P:
> > > > > . The front springs have again been made shorter (by 10 mm) and
> > > > > stiffer, a
> > > > > 24 mm rear anti-roll bar has been added, a front lower stress
> > > bar is now
> > > > > standard equipment, the shocks have been recalibrated, and the
> > > > > car now has
> > > > > four-wheel disc brakes
> > > > > The exhaust system is stainless steel, which should last far
> > > longer than
> > > > > the mid-steel version
> > > > > Other features that should boost longevity are sodium-filled
> > > > > exhaust valves
> > > > > and oil-cooled pistons. As a bonus, the l6V also has the
> > > larger oil pump
> > > > > found on the turbo diesel, to help meet the extra lubricating
demands.
> > > > >
> > > > > MT:
> > > > > To help put its robust new power-plant to best use, the
> > > Scirocco 16V GTX
> > > > > has also received a major suspension revamp. Heavier springs have
been
> > > > > fitted up front, and upgraded shocks reside at each corner. The
rear
> > > > > anti-roll bar diameter has been upped from 20.5 to 24 mm, and
> > > ride height
> > > > > lowered 10 mm
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > At 10:56 AM 8/27/2001 , thescirocco@juno.com wrote:
> > > > > >On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 09:40:19 -0500 "Aaron Ness"
<aaron@makuta.com>
> > > > > >writes:
> > > > > > > Didn't the big rear wing come on all '85.5+ 'roccos?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Yeah, but I didn't know that was a mid production change, I
> > > thought it
> > > > > >was all '85 and up...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Incidentally, I have one of these wings in my garage that
someone
> > > > > > > can have if they want it.  I'll ship it for $75, or you
> > > can pick it up
> > > > > >for
> > > > > > > free.
> > > > > > > Columbus, IN.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > (Yes, I know it doesn't cost $75 to ship it.)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Aaron
> > > > > > > '87 528e
> > > > > > > '82 Scirocco
> > > > > > > '70 Beetle
> > > > > > > '82 Kawasaki GPz550
> > > > > >
> > > > > >That would be a pain to properly box up and ship...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -tranny
> > > > > > > > > -Front rotor size
> > > > > > > > > -rear discs vs. rear drum
> > > > > > > > > -factory body kit
> > > > > > > > > -fuba antenna
> > > > > > > > > -rear wing
> > > > > > > > The fuel injection, 16V brain boxes and the engine harness.
> > > > > > > > 22mm M/cyl
> > > > > > > > 8000 RPM tach
> > > > > > > > 4 point lower bar
> > > > > > > > larger rear anti-swaybar
> > > > > > > > Black striped taillights (not necessarily a 16V thing)
> > > > > > > > Blacked out headlight retaining rings
> > > > > > > > Driver's fender without am antenna hole
> > > > > > > > Heavier pressure plate and a disc with a larger splined
center
> > > > > > > > The relay shaft has a slight angle to it
> > > > > > > > Seats
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Peter - http://thescirocco.com - Discount Techtonics,
Autotech-Quaife
> > > > > >USA, Magnecor, & Peloquin Dealer -  Bear, DE 19701
> > > > > >
> > > > > >'79 Scirocco 16V "Retro"
> > > > > >'83 GTI "Caged Rabbit"
> > > > > >'84.5 Scirocco "Oddball"
> > > > > >'84 GTI  - SciRollers: '79 White Champagne Edition, '84
> > > Black, '88 Red
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >DO NOT:
> > > > > >
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