Re: KW Coilovers

["Paul Grimes" <Paul@vwvortex.com>]

Wow, I am normally I am pretty quiet that is quite a statement!  I would be
interested to know what qualifies HPA  as "a bunch of fucks?"  Marcel Horn
has for all intents and purposes pushed the envelope pretty darned far with
their development of the Mk4 AWD platform and after personally driving their
650 horsepower turbocharged AWD TT I was so impressed that I have made
arrangements to deliver my TT  Roadster to them this spring to undergo a 24
valve VR6 turbo conversion.   Really Riley, I am not flaming you, just
interested to know why this statement was made?

As for us "whoring ourselves" to HPA I would again encourage you to consider
what you just said;  we decided to promote something to our readers that is
IMHO a really damned good product; for the price FAR better of a product
than either the H&R or Koni products.   I didn't for once suggest that the
aforementioned KW competiton is bad in any manner but if you compare like
coilover sets to the KW variant I products I think that you will come away
very impressed.   I have used a ton of suspension products in the past and
would from an engineering standpoint argue the fact that the KW product has
more advanced shock valving and better internal design that will ultimately
lead to a product that will last longer.   I have driven both Mk1 and Mk4
chassis cars with H&R coilovers and KW variant I's and have found the ride
quality and handling to be better in the KW's... Granted, I was not able to
say that in the article since i didn't do a full tech article with charts
and diagrams on it... but before you dismiss the product in a public forum
like this please let me know what your rational reasons are?

Oh, and sorry about the whole "whoring" ourselves out thing happening; when
your hosting costs are nearly $6k per month you gotta charge somebody for
the bandwidth and since none of our users have sent me a check lately.......
well ya know!

Paul


----- Original Message -----
From: "Riley McDowall" <roog@telus.net>
To: "John Erickson" <hombre@elp.rr.com>
Cc: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 1:14 AM
Subject: Re: KW Coilovers


> At 7:14 PM -0600 10/16/01, John Erickson wrote:
> >There is a group buy for these things on the Vortex right now.  They
> >are "Europe's number one selling...blah, blah, blah."    Anyone have
> >any experience with them?  Any good?  The price quoted is $889.
>
> I don't wanna get off on a rant here, but....
>
> HPA is a bunch of fucks, and I wouldn't trust anything they were
> pushing as exclusive distributors as far as I could cram it up my
> bum.  Seriously.  And for the "ultra-special" price they're offering
> on Vortex, you can pass on them and give Potter an extra hundred and
> change for H&R coilovers that are pretty much guaranteed to knock
> your socks off.  With a warrantee you can depend on and with
> first-hand testimonials from people we trust.
>
> This KW, or Weitec, or FK, or Avo, or whatever brand-of-the-week
> coilover scam is getting a little out of hand..
>
> And what's with VWVortex whoring themselves out like that?  There's
> zero tolerance on selling things in forums other than "classified",
> and yet they've spammed every forum there is with this KW nonsense
> and then made it stay at the top of the thread list regardless of
> activity.
>
> Whew!
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