Re: [vent] watercooled newbie vs "experienced" carpart salesperson. (long)

["Dave Ewing" <rabbit16v@prodigy.net>]

RIGHT ON!!!!  The worst thing about people who know-it-all is that they know
all they will ever know!!!  Believe me, I know, I work for someone who has
20 YEARS EXPERIENCE!!!!  COUNT THEM, 20!!!  And nothing I say is worth a
nickel even though I have over 10 years experience.  The difference is that
I am open to learning new things where he can't learn anything new because
he knows it all!!!!  I don't buy parts from where I work either!!!

Dave

> lemme just get something off my chest.  i encourage you not to read :)
>
> On wednesday i went to a nameless parts store (BAP*cough*) to buy gaskets
> for the 2.0 16v with 1.8 head.  i got intake, exhaust, and valve cover
> gaskets.  they looked odd to me right away (im new at this though, what do
i
> know), but since i would have to pick up an order on friday (seals for
block
> and such), i figured i could return the stuff if it was wrong when i went
> back to pickup the order.  i take a look at the stuff once i get
home...sure
> enough, everything is way too small.  I didnt look carefully, but didnt
seem
> like i needed to.  ok, ill go return it on friday, not a huge deal.
> today when i go to pickup my order, i express my concern that they may
have
> ordered me 8v stuff like they did with the other gaskets.  The guy looks
up
> gaskets for a 88 scirocco ( i told him 16v) and pulls out some more
gaskets.
> Amazingly enough, they are EXACTLY the same as the ones i was given the
1st
> time.  i tell the guy those arent right, and he checks some more, and says
> those are the right ones.  Maybe i was wrong, im not an expert by any
> longshot, afterall.  i give up finally, go back home, and do some serious
> comparing, and i also see if the block gasket and seals set that i ordered
> is right (it was!).  I return to the parts store again, this time i bring
> the intake manifold, the exhaust manifold, the old valve cover gasket, and
> the oilpan gasket (btw i was told that the oilpan gasket would come with
the
> set for the bottom end, but it did not).
> I bring everything in, and set it on the counter.  the guy says "oh those
> are 2.0 liter parts."  "Nope, these are stock scirocco 1.8 liter 16v
parts,"
> i tell him.  "oh really?" he says, then proceeds to check things on his
> computer (he looks up the stuff under passat this time).  He comes back
with
> a intake manifold gasket that fits!  he then tells me, "see these are 2.0
> liter parts.  The stuff we gave you before would work on a 1.8 liter 16v"
i
> tell him "these are stock scirocco 1.8l 16v parts.  I can bring my car
next
> time and show you they are the same."  the guy replies, "i dont need to
look
> at your car because i know what ill see."  implying that im a complete
moron
> and hes so certain that hes right that he doesnt need to waste his time
just
> to verify is alleged correctness.  i try to explain again these parts are
> from a scirocco 16v 1.8 liter and i tell him i could bring in more intake
> manifolds if it would help him (and i mention how the 2.0 intake manifolds
> usually have the TB attach on the opposite side...see im learning!) but
the
> gasket is the same for either.  he starts going off about how he has 6
years
> experience and he was trained PROFESSIONALLY (oooo!).  i tell him, "i have
6
> months experience, non-professionally, and i can tell you that youre
wrong."
> Finally the guy leaves the issue alone and goes to find parts, finds me
the
> exhaust gaskets, an intake gasket, but not the rest.  I tell him to keep
his
> stuff, and i left.
> I hope i can get what i need tomorrow (from some place else) and get this
> badboy in the car finally!  Thanks to Peter for getting me the mounts
> quickly.  Thanks to Tom for listening to me whine.
>
> scirocco newbie,
> koabi
>
>
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