A good idea is so you dont mess up YOUR car.. practice with some door handles you get from the junk yard :) Better on the nerves and if it doesnt work and you loose the brass springy things then you have nothing lost except the lock. -- Email LIST problems to: scirocco-l-probs@scirocco.org. To unsubscibe send "unsubscribe scirocco-l" in the message to majordomo@scirocco.org