RE: HELP!@# my rocco's frame is cracked bad :( I need a clean low mileagereasonably cheap A1 shell of any sort!

["Patrick Bureau" <patricdlc@hotmail.com>]

no to mention the cost of getting the frame properly welded,
when I did mine not too long ago because I had invested too much in a paint 
job (one of those things that migrate from car to car not easily)
it ended being a reframing job (additional steel was added to structure to 
reinforce (welded atop the welded crack) to ensure some longevity to the 
chassis. cost me close to 1K to get it repaired.

I can only imagine that anything as difficult as this weld would cost (in a 
reinforced structure weld scenario) cost over the actuall cost of finding a 
used rocco and transplanting everything into the new shell.

and I think that Gary considered this already, thus why hes looking for a 
new shell/used rocco to use.

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----Original Message Follows----
From: "Fry, Larry" <LEF@chem-tronics.com>
To: Gary Huff <scirocco86@home.com>, jester@westfailure.net
CC: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Subject: RE: HELP!@# my rocco's frame is cracked bad :( I need a clean low  
mileage reasonably cheap A1 shell of any sort!
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:54:20 -0800

Okay guys, in theory, a weld can be just as strong as the parent material.
Sometimes the recast portion(the "weld") can be even stronger, depending on
the filler material used, but even then, the heat-affected zone (parent
material immediately adjacent to the weld) usually will NOT be, unless the
entire structure goes through a carefully-controlled heat treatment.  This
means temperatures held to +-10 degrees F for up to several hours.
Then, the welding itself must be controlled as far as initial cleanliness
and protection from atmospheric contamination during the welding, both on
the front and the back-side of the weld zone.
On an automobile, neither of these things are possible.

So, while I would attempt the weld repair of Gary's car (I agree with
Steve)if it were mine, I appreciate Gary's concern for the long-term
integrity.  Bottom line; it's Gary's call, he has to live with it, and if he
feels most comfortable in getting a new shell, well, then, that's the best
thing for him.
enjoy the ride

Larry  sandiego16V

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Huff [mailto:scirocco86@home.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 6:41 AM
To: jester@westfailure.net
Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Subject: Re: HELP!@# my rocco's frame is cracked bad :( I need a clean
low mileage reasonably cheap A1 shell of any sort!


Dude, you don't understand. The crack is *BAD* and the way it's split scares
me, it travelled from the bottom around and up sideways towards the airbox.
This car has at least 170k on the chassis and the floorpan is dented to
death also. There are other stress cracks showing in paint by the strut
towers too. I think it's simply time for a new chassis for my 2.0l 16v &
quaife, otherwise I will end up destroying this one. I don't want to have it
welded and deal with that.
	-ghuff

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