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Re: Funk on Da list!! (Long)
Isn't there a maximum post length? and doesn't this violate it?
kick him!! :)
Josh Able
87 16v Seidl
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Ewing" <rabbit16v@prodigy.net>
To: "Scirocco List" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2001 6:32 PM
Subject: Funk on Da list!! (Long)
> Hey all!!
>
> Gotta vent here. Now before I say anything I need to begin with a little
> background. For what it is worth, this is only my opinion based on many
> years experience working on VWs professionally and over three years on the
> Scirocco List. So I am not someone just coming out of the woodwork
dissin'
> everyone. Also keep in mind that I am married with three kids and one on
> the way with a job that almost puts us under the poverty level. We live
> well within our means (cheap!!) and this is my approach to most things in
> life including my affection for building fast and nice VWs. I love
> junkyards and generally oppose the big companies selling bolt on mods that
> have huge results (remember the Nuespeed throttle body! Almost $300 for
> what, an Audi 5000 throttle body with an adapter that makes the TB
virtually
> useless (but sells good on Ebay!!!), or the SC kit currently a thread on
the
> list)
>
> Lately I have been a little opinionated and I appologize if I have
offended
> anyone but at the same time I believe there are some problems that need
some
> attention. The list doesn't have to be modified or anything, I am only
> hoping to make people think a little before they post to the list. I know
> there are people with similar experience or even more experience than
myself
> but we have to remember that EVERYONE on the list does not have the same
> mindset as the people who work on VWs everyday or have a bunch of
> experience. I guess the reason why things have bothered me more than
normal
> is that I have seen answers to posts as if they were fact with nothing to
> back them up. I apologize for using this as an example but it is the most
> recent: Someone asked if it was OK to use regualar oil in a motor that
had
> synthetic in it and the response was "Yes" but only these two kinds. Not
> only is this not true, but it is misleading this individual that has
turned
> to the Scirocco list for help. Even worse, the person who responded seems
> to have a bunch of experience. ALL I am asking is that we THINK HARD
about
> our responses before we post. In a LOT of cases, we are acting as car
> doctors and saying "Yeah, do this and everything will be OK", well what
> happens when they do what you tell them and the engine gives (for whatever
> reason), are you to be held accountable?
>
> On one little side note, a while back we had a "To Spam or Not To Spam"
> conversation/fight/thread on the list. The end result was "Not" which
> everyone seems to be fine with this since this is how the list was started
> and wants to stay. My question: Should people be able to advertise in
their
> signatures? Is this spamming? Just curious!!!
>
> I am NOT trying to start anything but only trying to stop the uneducated
> suggestions that I have been seeing more and more of lately. I realize
that
> nobody is perfect and mistakes are made (I think I made one once: ) ) but
if
> we claim to have experience and the list is to be ran professionally (to a
> point) then we need to make sure our information is correct. With the
> internet, it is really easy to back up something that you heard the other
> day at your friend's house about one header working better than another
> header by checking the specs online. Just make sure that your information
> is backed up!! Plus, for people being advised, make sure that you get
other
> opinions and do some research of your own. DON'T go by what a couple
people
> on a some newsgroup told you what to do on your own car. Ultimately, the
> end user is the one responsible for what they do to their own cars!!!
>
> I hope this helps and I hope this DOESN'T cause a bunch of
> flaming/arguing/etc. I do have to make sure Apologize to Peter for making
> him an example. I value your contribution to the list and am not trying
to
> make you leave or anything. I do NOT want you to dislike me for this I
just
> want the list to keep it's integrity and make sure that the information
that
> is posted is true and exact not opinionated (unless stated of course) or
> unbacked ideas stated as factual.
>
> Dave
>
>
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