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Re: Was lug bolts, now US vs. German engineering
what with lucas "electronics" :-)
and the brilliant... damn now just how do i change the clutch...
1 remove hood.
2 remove body.or cut hole in floorboard.
:-)
brian
82 Cabby 8v slow for the wife.
91 VFR750F for when i wanna go faaast
On Fri, 2 Nov 2001, [iso-8859-1] Andy Holmes wrote:
> I'm soo glad British cars arnt in this discussion.
>
> Andy
>
> --- Cheapass Ron <rapieper@yahoo.com> wrote: > (big
> breath)
> >
> > Wow, that's a loaded statement. But this is a
> > discussion group and
> > this *is* discussion, after all...
> >
> > I both agree and disagree. Certainly your statement
> > holds true for
> > BMW, Porsche, and Mercedes vs. The Big Three. No
> > argument there
> > whatsoever.
> >
> > But we deal with Volkswagens. These are
> > mass-market, economy cars.
> > Cheap cars, even. Much as we love them, including
> > me, let us recall
> > what we deal with.
> >
> > We complain about shaky transmissions, A/C that
> > never works, bad
> > electrical systems, rattles, shakes, crappy shift
> > linkages, cracking
> > unibodies (front engine/tranny mount, a-arms, strut
> > towers). Failed
> > heater motor resistors. Cracked exhaust manifolds.
> > Horribly
> > underdesigned engine mounts (on the A1's...but has
> > this truly been
> > fixed yet?). Odometers that often don't work after
> > maybe 100,000
> > miles. Face it: these are NOT cars for those who
> > aren't mechanically
> > inclined, 13+ years old or not. You want to do
> > nothing to your car but
> > change oil and tires and add gas? Get a Toyota
> > (yawwwnn). Yes, the
> > bottom ends of our engines are fantastic. As are
> > the FI systems, if
> > you don't fuck with them. But what about the
> > incredible Chevy small
> > block? Their straight six? The Turbohydramatic
> > 350, or god forbid,
> > the TH400? Supremely good stuff.
> >
> > I've owned several American cars. They have their
> > pluses and minuses.
> > My little '92 Saturn SL2 was the best car amongst
> > the lot, hands down.
> > In may ways it reminded me of a VW in its simplicity
> > of design. My
> > S10, well, I bitched about it, but it ran and ran
> > and ran. As did our
> > Explorer (yes, an SUV, we can argue that in a
> > different thread). Our
> > Chylsler T&C minivan, well, sucks.
> >
> > My final analysis: German engineering can be
> > superb. It can also be
> > merely adequate, as is the case with our VW's.
> > Frankly, the same goes
> > for American auto engineering. Both examples aim at
> > a broad-market,
> > "value" offering...neither is going to give you an
> > overdesigned system.
> >
> >
> > I'm sure we'll discuss this more...
> >
> > Ron
> >
> >
> > --- Chris DeLong <green536@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > No offense Ron but comparing American car
> > engineering to German
> > > engineering
> > > is like comparing steaming pile of shit to a
> > freshly mowed lawn
> > > (minus the
> > > shit part) ;-)
> >
> >
> >
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>
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> 83 Jetta 2.1
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