Re: GTI vs GTI or Geordy vs VW

["Mike VanAmburgh" <vmichael12@qwest.net>]

You could probably get a better deal on the 1.8T.  I don't think as many
VR6s come thru the dealerships these days, especially in the GTI.  Maybe
that is why they aren't as willing to deal with you on the VR6.  $200
below MSRP is still weak, tho.  Add a zero to the discount and it would
be a good deal.  :-)  I have driven both the new GTI VR6 and 1.8T.  The
new VR6 feels better than the A3 VR6.  It has much better low end pull
to it now and is more enjoyable to drive.  I love the VR6 motor.  It's
so smooth.  They say the only motor that feels smoother is BMW's inline
6s, but I have an inline BMW 6 (although 13 years old) and it doesn't
feel as smooth to me.  I have also driven a friend's 95 325is at about 6
autoxes and it too isn't as smooth as the VR6.  Anyhoo, the 1.8T is an
amazing little motor too.  It pulls like mad at low rpms, strangely
enough.  If you wanted a tuner car, get the 1.8T (with $400, you can get
the Garrett ECU upgrade that brings the power to 190ish).  If you want a
car that you don't have to do much to, the VR6 is great.  Also keep in
mind that we are supposed to be getting the Euro 200+ hp 24V VR6 with
6-speed in a GTI for 2002.  That might be worth waiting for.  I'd be
really surprised to see it make it over here, but you can read about it
on vwvortex.com.  

Mike

Geordy Rostad wrote:
> 
> I'm planning to purchase a '01 or '02 GTI as my next car (I think).
> I know a few of you folks out there have driven them.  What are some
> opinions on the VR6 vs. the 1.8T equipped models.  I want to hear it all
> fun factor, performance, value, did I say fun?  Also, reliability and
> buildability...  I called my insurance company and they told me that both
> models would cost the exact same amount to insure so that is not a factor.
> 
> Next, about actually obtaining one of these, I've been in communication
> with my local VW stealership and they said the lowest price they would
> give me on the VR6 silver GTI that I want was $200 below msrp,
> this sounds like a weak deal to me, I was thinking more along the lines
> of $200 above invoice.   What it the best deal one of you guys has worked on
> one of these?  Is this a typical VW stealership thing?  (meaning the
> unwillingness
> to negotiate)
> 
> Geordy Rostad
> 
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