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Re: sudden car death (one way valve)
Let's back this thread up a wee bit. Finally, after bending a pair of
needlenose pliers
and giving my forearms a major workout I finally got this bastard
unstuck! Anyhow, I
have the one way valve in my hand and I'm trying to blow through it in
this direction:
fuel pump ----> fuel accumulator line
No, success, am I not blowing hard enough?!? Is this an item that comes
with the fuel
pump?
>>
>>> You are correct that is a banjo bolt, and the peice that that is stuck
>>
> is a
>
>>> one way check valve. It stops reverse fuel flow, that peice is
>>
> replaceable,
>
>>> unfortunately I think it is a stealership part (or it may come with the
>>
> new
>
>>> pump). Autozone has the primary pump for around $99, if you can't get
>>
> the
>
>>> old pice apart then you will definite;y go to the yard or the
>>
> stealership
>
>>> and get a new line (this goes from the pump to the accumulator. Hope
>>
> this
>
>>> helps.
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Geordy Rostad
>>> To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
>>> Sent: 05/10/2001 9:29 PM
>>> Subject: Re: sudden car death (fuel pump !@#!)
>>>
>>> The plot sickens, I clamped off the hose from the transfer pump
>>> and pulled the three screws that hold the pump into the black housing
>>> but it seems that the banjo bolt(I think it's a banjo bolt at least) is
>>> fused
>>> to the line. The bolt loosened from the pump but not from the line.
>>> I finally took some robogrips to the line and the socket to the bolt
>>> but still, only half a turn or so, then it froze again. What am I doing
>>>
>>> wrong?
>>>
>>> Geordy Rostad
>>> '88 jetta 16v
>>>
>>> Cheapass Ron wrote:
>>>
>>>> My guess here is that you have a faulty main fuel
>>>> pump...but I have not had one of these go on a CIS-E
>>>> car, so I'm not the best to tell you whether it's the
>>>> transfer pump or the main pump. Wish I could help...
>>>>
>>>> Ron
>>>> --- Geordy Rostad <grostad@thresholdnetworks.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The filter is out and when I jump the relay, no fuel
>>>>> comes out.
>>>>> I unplug the main pump and still hear the transfer
>>>>> pump. What
>>>>> else should I check, the fuel pump sounds like it's
>>>>> working when plugged in,
>>>>> what happened?
>>>>>
>>>>> geordy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 16v '88 jetta
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was thinking it'd go toward the back just
>>>>>
>>>>> because that looks more
>>>>>
>>>>>> correct
>>>>>> like a bullet in a gun or something. (faster than
>>>>>
>>>>> a speeding
>>>>>
>>>>>> honda...more powerful
>>>>>> than a...)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eric L Ellis wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What kind of car? 16v? The seam goes toward the
>>>>>>
>>>>> front.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 May 2001 00:26:42 -0700 geordy
>>>>>>> <grostad@thresholdnetworks.com>
>>>>>>> writes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I bought a new fuel filter today, no it's not a
>>>>>>>
>>>>> bosch....
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's a fram, they had it in stock and it was $10
>>>>>>>
>>>>> cheaper than
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the bosch, I hope no one has a problem with
>>>>>>>
>>>>> this!
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now, my question, are these filters directional
>>>>>>>
>>>>> or is does
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> it matter which way I hook it up? Should the
>>>>>>>
>>>>> seam face the
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> front or the rear of the car?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheapass Ron wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, there is a timing mark under the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> inspection cover
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> on the tranny. there is also a 6 deg mark,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> which
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> looks like a chisel mark. Just to the left of
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> that,
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> viewed bending over the driver's fender, is a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> little
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> square protrusion (there's also one to the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> right, a
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> little farther away - you want the one to the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> left). Set the engine
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> there...easier to remove the plugs and
>>>>>>>>> crank from the 19mm pulley bolt on the front
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> end of
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the crankshaft. Line that squarish mark up to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> indicator on the bottom of the inspection hole
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> (you
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> have to remove the whole green plug, not just
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> little clear thing in the middle, good luck).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> Then
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> check the timing mark on the cam...which should
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> be at
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 12:00 and aligned with the little pointer on
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> the inner
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> cover. That should tell you whether the cam
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> timing is
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> on or off.
>>>>>>>>> AFA the fuel, easiest way to check is with a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> gauge and
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> a double-length banjo bolt...but these are not
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> in
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> every garage. I'd guess the next easiest thing
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> to to
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> is remove one injector, preferably all, point
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> it into
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> a jar, jumper the fuel pump relay, and lift the
>>>>>>>>> airflow sensor plate to make sure all spray
>>>>>>>>> sufficiently...this procedure is in the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> Bentley. Cracking loose a
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> fuel line fitting from the filter
>>>>>>>>> could tell you a little something, or maybe
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> even
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> removing the return line to the tank and
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> checking flow
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> there...that on 2nd though could be valuable
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> because
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> that fuel has already been past the pressure
>>>>>>>>> regulator.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You do have a fat spark, right?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And BTW, you *do* have the Bentley...or at
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> least a
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Haynes...right? No shit, the Bentley is super
>>>>>>>>> valuable.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Good luck, let me know how you progress.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ron
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --- Geordy Rostad
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> <grostad@thresholdnetworks.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheapass Ron wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> NOw it's starting to sound like a fuel
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> pump...but
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> BTDT, right?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Welllll, not exactly, I turn the key, I hear
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> fuel pump. Aside from that,
>>>>>>>>>> I crank the motor and I think I still here the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> fuel
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> pump. What is the easy way
>>>>>>>>>> to check and see if I have actual flow?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Can you set it to TDC and see where the
>>>>>>>>>>> cam mark lines up? That'll tell you whether
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> your
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> cam
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> timing is off.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You mean the mark on the timing belt gear on
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> cam?
>>>>>>>>>> And see if what lines up? Is there a mark
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> under
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> inspection plug on the trans?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ron
>>>>>>>>>>> --- Geordy Rostad
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> <grostad@thresholdnetworks.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone thing I may have a fuel problem?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> I
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> replace my injector seals btw.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Could it be a fuel filter? Maybe I went
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> over a
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> bump
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> and dislodged a grain of muck and clogged
>>>>>>>>>>>> it? Could the fuel pump shaft separate from
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> pump mechanism so that it sounds like
>>>>>>>>>>>> it's spraying fuel but actually not...?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> What is
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> the easy method to check fuel flow?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> When I put the new airboot on it almost
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> started
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> then died so I don't think it's spark
>>>>>>>>>>>> or timing. It only does the almost start
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> and
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> die thing after having sat for quite a
>>>>>>>>>>>> while.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Geordy
>>>>>>>>>>>> '88 jetta 16v
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> geordy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I want to replace the t-belt anyways since
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> I
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> absolutely no idea
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> how long it has been on there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW, It died when I hit a bump in the road,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> my
>>>>>
>>>> === message truncated ===
>>>>
>>>>
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