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Re: sudden car death (fuel pump !@#!)
The plot sickens, I clamped off the hose from the transfer pump
and pulled the three screws that hold the pump into the black housing
but it seems that the banjo bolt(I think it's a banjo bolt at least) is
fused
to the line. The bolt loosened from the pump but not from the line.
I finally took some robogrips to the line and the socket to the bolt
but still, only half a turn or so, then it froze again. What am I doing
wrong?
Geordy Rostad
'88 jetta 16v
Cheapass Ron wrote:
> My guess here is that you have a faulty main fuel
> pump...but I have not had one of these go on a CIS-E
> car, so I'm not the best to tell you whether it's the
> transfer pump or the main pump. Wish I could help...
>
> Ron
> --- Geordy Rostad <grostad@thresholdnetworks.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The filter is out and when I jump the relay, no fuel
>> comes out.
>> I unplug the main pump and still hear the transfer
>> pump. What
>> else should I check, the fuel pump sounds like it's
>> working when plugged in,
>> what happened?
>>
>> geordy wrote:
>>
>>> 16v '88 jetta
>>>
>>> I was thinking it'd go toward the back just
>>
>> because that looks more
>>
>>> correct
>>> like a bullet in a gun or something. (faster than
>>
>> a speeding
>>
>>> honda...more powerful
>>> than a...)
>>>
>>> Eric L Ellis wrote:
>>>
>>>> What kind of car? 16v? The seam goes toward the
>>>
>> front.
>>
>>>> Eric
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 11 May 2001 00:26:42 -0700 geordy
>>>> <grostad@thresholdnetworks.com>
>>>> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> I bought a new fuel filter today, no it's not a
>>>>
>> bosch....
>>
>>>>> It's a fram, they had it in stock and it was $10
>>>>
>> cheaper than
>>
>>>>> the bosch, I hope no one has a problem with
>>>>
>> this!
>>
>>>>> Now, my question, are these filters directional
>>>>
>> or is does
>>
>>>>> it matter which way I hook it up? Should the
>>>>
>> seam face the
>>
>>>>> front or the rear of the car?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheapass Ron wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, there is a timing mark under the
>>>>>
>> inspection cover
>>
>>>>>> on the tranny. there is also a 6 deg mark,
>>>>>
>> which
>>
>>>>>> looks like a chisel mark. Just to the left of
>>>>>
>> that,
>>
>>>>>> viewed bending over the driver's fender, is a
>>>>>
>> little
>>
>>>>>> square protrusion (there's also one to the
>>>>>
>> right, a
>>
>>>>>> little farther away - you want the one to the
>>>>>
>> left). Set the engine
>>
>>>>>> there...easier to remove the plugs and
>>>>>> crank from the 19mm pulley bolt on the front
>>>>>
>> end of
>>
>>>>>> the crankshaft. Line that squarish mark up to
>>>>>
>> the
>>
>>>>>> indicator on the bottom of the inspection hole
>>>>>
>> (you
>>
>>>>>> have to remove the whole green plug, not just
>>>>>
>> the
>>
>>>>>> little clear thing in the middle, good luck).
>>>>>
>> Then
>>
>>>>>> check the timing mark on the cam...which should
>>>>>
>> be at
>>
>>>>>> 12:00 and aligned with the little pointer on
>>>>>
>> the inner
>>
>>>>>> cover. That should tell you whether the cam
>>>>>
>> timing is
>>
>>>>>> on or off.
>>>>>> AFA the fuel, easiest way to check is with a
>>>>>
>> gauge and
>>
>>>>>> a double-length banjo bolt...but these are not
>>>>>
>> in
>>
>>>>>> every garage. I'd guess the next easiest thing
>>>>>
>> to to
>>
>>>>>> is remove one injector, preferably all, point
>>>>>
>> it into
>>
>>>>>> a jar, jumper the fuel pump relay, and lift the
>>>>>> airflow sensor plate to make sure all spray
>>>>>> sufficiently...this procedure is in the
>>>>>
>> Bentley. Cracking loose a
>>
>>>>>> fuel line fitting from the filter
>>>>>> could tell you a little something, or maybe
>>>>>
>> even
>>
>>>>>> removing the return line to the tank and
>>>>>
>> checking flow
>>
>>>>>> there...that on 2nd though could be valuable
>>>>>
>> because
>>
>>>>>> that fuel has already been past the pressure
>>>>>> regulator.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You do have a fat spark, right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And BTW, you *do* have the Bentley...or at
>>>>>
>> least a
>>
>>>>>> Haynes...right? No shit, the Bentley is super
>>>>>> valuable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good luck, let me know how you progress.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ron
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- Geordy Rostad
>>>>>
>> <grostad@thresholdnetworks.com>
>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheapass Ron wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> NOw it's starting to sound like a fuel
>>>>>>>
>> pump...but
>>
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BTDT, right?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Welllll, not exactly, I turn the key, I hear
>>>>>>
>> the
>>
>>>>>>> fuel pump. Aside from that,
>>>>>>> I crank the motor and I think I still here the
>>>>>>
>> fuel
>>
>>>>>>> pump. What is the easy way
>>>>>>> to check and see if I have actual flow?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can you set it to TDC and see where the
>>>>>>>> cam mark lines up? That'll tell you whether
>>>>>>>
>> your
>>
>>>>>>> cam
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> timing is off.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You mean the mark on the timing belt gear on
>>>>>>
>> the
>>
>>>>>>> cam?
>>>>>>> And see if what lines up? Is there a mark
>>>>>>
>> under
>>
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> inspection plug on the trans?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ron
>>>>>>>> --- Geordy Rostad
>>>>>>>
>> <grostad@thresholdnetworks.com>
>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Does anyone thing I may have a fuel problem?
>>>>>>>>
>> I
>>
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> replace my injector seals btw.
>>>>>>>>> Could it be a fuel filter? Maybe I went
>>>>>>>>
>> over a
>>
>>>>>>> bump
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and dislodged a grain of muck and clogged
>>>>>>>>> it? Could the fuel pump shaft separate from
>>>>>>>>
>> the
>>
>>>>>>>>> pump mechanism so that it sounds like
>>>>>>>>> it's spraying fuel but actually not...?
>>>>>>>>
>> What is
>>
>>>>>>>>> the easy method to check fuel flow?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When I put the new airboot on it almost
>>>>>>>>
>> started
>>
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> then died so I don't think it's spark
>>>>>>>>> or timing. It only does the almost start
>>>>>>>>
>> and
>>
>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> die thing after having sat for quite a
>>>>>>>>> while.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Geordy
>>>>>>>>> '88 jetta 16v
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> geordy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I want to replace the t-belt anyways since
>>>>>>>>>
>> I
>>
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> absolutely no idea
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> how long it has been on there.
>>>>>>>>>> BTW, It died when I hit a bump in the road,
>>>>>>>>>
>> my
>>
> === message truncated ===
>
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