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Re: sudden car death (fuel?)
I bought a new fuel filter today, no it's not a bosch....
It's a fram, they had it in stock and it was $10 cheaper than
the bosch, I hope no one has a problem with this!
Now, my question, are these filters directional or is does
it matter which way I hook it up? Should the seam face the
front or the rear of the car?
Cheapass Ron wrote:
> Yes, there is a timing mark under the inspection cover
> on the tranny. there is also a 6 deg mark, which
> looks like a chisel mark. Just to the left of that,
> viewed bending over the driver's fender, is a little
> square protrusion (there's also one to the right, a
> little farther away - you want the one to the left).
> Set the engine there...easier to remove the plugs and
> crank from the 19mm pulley bolt on the front end of
> the crankshaft. Line that squarish mark up to the
> indicator on the bottom of the inspection hole (you
> have to remove the whole green plug, not just the
> little clear thing in the middle, good luck). Then
> check the timing mark on the cam...which should be at
> 12:00 and aligned with the little pointer on the inner
> cover. That should tell you whether the cam timing is
> on or off.
>
> AFA the fuel, easiest way to check is with a gauge and
> a double-length banjo bolt...but these are not in
> every garage. I'd guess the next easiest thing to to
> is remove one injector, preferably all, point it into
> a jar, jumper the fuel pump relay, and lift the
> airflow sensor plate to make sure all spray
> sufficiently...this procedure is in the Bentley.
> Cracking loose a fuel line fitting from the filter
> could tell you a little something, or maybe even
> removing the return line to the tank and checking flow
> there...that on 2nd though could be valuable because
> that fuel has already been past the pressure
> regulator.
>
> You do have a fat spark, right?
>
> And BTW, you *do* have the Bentley...or at least a
> Haynes...right? No shit, the Bentley is super
> valuable.
>
> Good luck, let me know how you progress.
>
> Ron
>
> --- Geordy Rostad <grostad@thresholdnetworks.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Cheapass Ron wrote:
>>
>>> NOw it's starting to sound like a fuel pump...but
>>
>> you
>>
>>> BTDT, right?
>>
>> Welllll, not exactly, I turn the key, I hear the
>> fuel pump. Aside from
>> that,
>> I crank the motor and I think I still here the fuel
>> pump. What is the
>> easy way
>> to check and see if I have actual flow?
>>
>>> Can you set it to TDC and see where the
>>> cam mark lines up? That'll tell you whether your
>>
>> cam
>>
>>> timing is off.
>>
>>
>> You mean the mark on the timing belt gear on the
>> cam?
>> And see if what lines up? Is there a mark under
>> that
>> inspection plug on the trans?
>>
>>>
>>> Ron
>>> --- Geordy Rostad <grostad@thresholdnetworks.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Does anyone thing I may have a fuel problem? I
>>>
>> just
>>
>>>> replace my injector
>>>> seals btw.
>>>> Could it be a fuel filter? Maybe I went over a
>>>
>> bump
>>
>>>> and dislodged a
>>>> grain of muck and clogged
>>>> it? Could the fuel pump shaft separate from the
>>>> pump mechanism so that
>>>> it sounds like
>>>> it's spraying fuel but actually not...? What is
>>>> the easy method to
>>>> check fuel flow?
>>>>
>>>> When I put the new airboot on it almost started
>>>
>> and
>>
>>>> then died so I don't
>>>> think it's spark
>>>> or timing. It only does the almost start and
>>>
>> then
>>
>>>> die thing after
>>>> having sat for quite a
>>>> while.
>>>>
>>>> Geordy
>>>> '88 jetta 16v
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> geordy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I want to replace the t-belt anyways since I
>>>>
>> have
>>
>>>> absolutely no idea
>>>>
>>>>> how long it has been on there.
>>>>> BTW, It died when I hit a bump in the road, my
>>>>
>>>> scirocco did the same
>>>>
>>>>> thing to my brother one
>>>>> time, he hit a bump (or jump) in the road and
>>>>
>>>> threw the timing off and
>>>>
>>>>> it ran shitty all the way home.
>>>>> Mine just died, I wonder what's up...
>>>>>
>>>>> I put the airbox/intake stuff back together and
>>>>
>>>> the car still wouldn't
>>>>
>>>>> start. I left all of the other
>>>>> belts off however... I wouldn't think that
>>>>
>> would
>>
>>>> be a problem.
>>>>
>>>>> 16v Jason wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Doesn't have to be that huge!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you were able to see daylight in there, you
>>>>>
>>>> have about 0 chance
>>>>
>>>>>> that the car will run.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's your problem from the sound of it. Try
>>>>>
>> to
>>
>>>> start the car with
>>>>
>>>>>> a new one on there before you kill yourself
>>>>>
>>>> checking the timing belt.
>>>>
>>>>>> And why you going through so much trouble to
>>>>>
>>>> check the belt this
>>>>
>>>>>> way? Couldn't you just have taken the upper
>>>>>
>>>> cover off without doing
>>>>
>>>>>> all that other shit?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At 01:17 AM 5/9/01 , Geordy Rostad wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's not THAT large, but when I removed the
>>>>>>
>> pipe
>>
>>>> between the two
>>>>
>>>>>>> boots I saw
>>>>>>> daylight...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Brett Van Sprewenburg wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also, I have noticed a big tear in the
>>>>>>>>
>>>> throttle body air boot.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just so I can be the first.... :)
>>>>>>>> But this is probably the reason your car
>>>>>>>
>> won't
>>
>>>> run, or start, or
>>>>
>>>>>>>> what-ever...
>>>>>>>> Any tear in the boot is likely to cause
>>>>>>>
>> running
>>
>>>> problems, a large
>>>>
>>>>>>>> one will cause the car not to run at
>>>>>>>
>>>> all...probably got your culprit
>>>>
>>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>>> ==Brett
>>>>>>>> \/ '84 Scirocco (ITB racer 2B) | "Hot VW's,
>>>>>>>
>>>> take two home. They're
>>>>
>>>>>>>> small"
>>>>>>>> \/\/ '88 Scirocco 16v (Show), '92 Passat 16v
>>>>>>>
>>>> (Winter+) | -
>>>>
>>>>>>>> brett@netacc.net
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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