Re: (WAS) Re:Suspension advice wanted plz: (NOW) lowered cars and Boge's

[16v Jason <jason@scirocco.org>]

You're right -- Turbos aren't the greatest choice for lowered A1 cars 
because they're really not stiff enough.  They aren't *bad*, but they 
generally don't last forever, and they're too soft to begin with, so you'll 
have about the same amount of bottoming out as you do with the stock 
suspension, and you'll get some front end float or bounce...

ProGas are *not* to be used with lowering springs.  It's my understanding 
that they have double-valving.  For low- to moderate suspension deflection, 
they're soft.  Then, under heavy deflection, the second valve kicks in and 
is much firmer.  This is nice for stock ride-height cars, but lowered cars 
are constantly in the "hard" valve area, making the ride punishing...

I've never personally driven a car with ProGasses on them with stock 
springs, but my guess is that they would be similar in ride to stock, but 
slightly firmer (and thus less bottoming) on hard bumps.

TurboGas + Stock Springs = nice combination, very much like stock, and you 
can expect a normal life.

FWIW I have MB Sport springs on my Mercedes with Boge TurboGas and it's a 
fantastic combination, even after 40k miles... still stiff, and the car 
never, ever bottoms.

TurboGas is a great shock with stock ride height...

Jason




At 12:41 PM 5/3/01 , David Guido wrote:
>Boge Turbos will blow out sooner than expected on A1 cars with lowering 
>springs. Apparently they work fine for A2 and A3 cars with lowering 
>springs for some reason, probably because those applications don't 
>compress the shock as much. Perhaps Progas would be a better choice for 
>your lowered A1.
>
>On the otherhand if you use Progas on stock springs you may be unhappy 
>with it as a daily driver, especially if you suffer from hemorrhoids...
>
>David
>
>
>>From: "Victor Farren" <vfarren@rrs.cdie.org>
>>To: pbureau@home.com, skerocdriver@juno.com
>>CC: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
>>Subject: (WAS) Re:Suspension advice wanted plz: (NOW) lowered cars and Boge's
>>Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 12:21:13 -0400
>>
>>Here is another data point.  I have Boge Turbos with my lowered 16v (H&R).
>>I originally bought them for my 8v over 3 years ago.  That car got killed 
>>and I transfered the shocks over to my 16v about 1 year ago.  The fronts 
>>blew out a few months ago and now I have Bilsteins to replace them.
>>
>>I don't know if it was b/c the 16v is heavier up front and/or b/c the 
>>roads is Washington, DC are CRAAAP, but the front Turbos didn't last too 
>>long on the 16v.  All in all, I got about 3.5 -4 years out of the Turbos.
>>
>>Your mileage may vary.
>>
>>Victor
>>
>> >>> Shawn C Meze <skerocdriver@juno.com> 05/02 11:30 PM >>>
>>
>>On 02 May 2001 22:17:36 EDT "Patrick Bureau" <pbureau@home.com> writes:
>>
>>
>> >what BASIC, daily driver shocks and springs would be reccomended
>> >(boges? BOSH?) , I dont race my car.
>>
>>
>>Go with stock shocks. Boges work just fine. I have the Turbogas shocks on
>>my GLi with lowering springs. They're fine for that. Go with the Progas
>>for your stock application.
>>
>>
>>Shawn MTze
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