I found this on the scirocco forum on the vortex. http://forums.vwvortex.com/vwbb/Forum13/HTML/001459.html Josh Able 87 16v Seidl -- Email LIST problems to: scirocco-l-probs@scirocco.org. To unsubscibe send "unsubscribe scirocco-l" in the message to majordomo@scirocco.org