RE: [tech] suspension - Front upper stress bar Q's

[Randy Block <RandyB@E-Risk.com>]

Neil, 
Luckily the holes in the bar were only about 1/16" off but the fact that I
was able to flex the bar to get it on made me a little concerned.
I've seen the AutoTech bar and it looks thicker (stiffer) than the Neuspeed
unit and mounts to the top with a ring (creating a kind of triangulation).
The thing I'm wondering is, is stiffer better or should there be some flex,
kind of a "weak link".

Randy B
81 (Mars) Scirocco S - Techtonics Tuning 1847cc 8V
81 (Cosmos) Scirocco S - future Oettinger 16V project
87 Jetta GLI 16V - daily driver 

	-----Original Message-----
	From:	Neal Tovsen [SMTP:sixteen.volt@gte.net]
	Sent:	Monday, January 15, 2001 2:31 PM
	To:	Randy Block; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
	Subject:	RE: [tech] suspension - Front upper stress bar Q's

	I got a Neuspeed off my winter beater, but couldn't fit it to the
good car.
	Bolt holes were a good 1/8" off, and it wouldn't bend that far. I
don't know
	if it was the bar or my car that was bent, but I'm tempted to say it
was the
	bar considering the car it came off of.

	When I got a used Autotech from a lister, I decided to go for it. It
has the
	center adjustablity, and I really like knowing that I'm not adding
strange
	loads to the suspension. The bar *seems* to be quite strong when
adjusted
	properly. You could lean on it with all your weight and it doesn't
wiggle up
	and down or anything.

	Neal

	> -----Original Message-----
	> From: owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org
	> [mailto:owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Randy Block
	> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 3:28 PM
	> To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
	> Subject: [tech] suspension - Front upper stress bar Q's
	>
	>
	> Ok,
	> Since were on the subject of suspension components.
	> I am currently running a Neuspeed upper strut tie bar, always have
on my
	> A1's
	> What are others running that they believe to be better and why?
	> I have always had my doubts about the Neuspeed unit due to small
	> tubing dia.
	> and possible flex at the bends.
	> I have had to BOW the bar to get it to fit before, this seems to
discredit
	> the functionality of the bar, right?
	> Should the bar have SOME flex in it?
	> I have seen other designs that seem to provide more stiffness,
Dick W's
	> square tube bar, Craig's stainless bar, bars with much larger
tubing dia,
	> etc... etc...
	> My guess is the reason the Neuspeed bar is so common is simply due
to the
	> #'s made and the low price.
	>
	> I guess my question is:
	> Is STIFFER better, or should there be a little flex in the upper
strut tie
	> bar.
	>
	> Thanks,
	>
	> Randy B
	> 81 (Mars) Scirocco S - Techtonics Tuning 1847cc 8V
	> 81 (Cosmos) Scirocco S - future Oettinger 16V project
	> 87 Jetta GLI 16V - daily driver
	>
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