scott maybe it's time to just throw it back together (barely) and take it to autozone to buy new ones for cheap. i live relatively close-by if ya want some help. just easier in the end rob 87 16v -- Email LIST problems to: scirocco-l-probs@scirocco.org. To unsubscibe send "unsubscribe scirocco-l" in the message to majordomo@scirocco.org