When I bought my car it had a medium sized hole in the muffler, now it's huge but it sounds the same as those riced out hondas that have the silver or gold stingers on the end. So I can technically say "I bought it that way" LOL -=John=- -- Email LIST problems to: scirocco-l-probs@scirocco.org. To unsubscibe send "unsubscribe scirocco-l" in the message to majordomo@scirocco.org