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Re: Breathing air box....
Me too - I think it's due to @home being bankrupt. ATT
shut down service though it's supposed to be back up
today....
--- Jeremy Salda <roccoguy@mac.com> wrote:
> Hey patrick, I can't get into your site. is it down?
> Anyone else have
> any probs?
>
> jeremy
>
>
> On Friday, November 30, 2001, at 09:12 , Patrick
> Bureau wrote:
>
> > the address is in the link of the signature
> below...
> >
> > Daun: I am on my waym see you tomorow, will call
> your cell # when I
> > cross the border.
> >
> > ___ ___________
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> > / /| | / / \__ \
> http://www.longcoeur.com/scirocco
> > / ___ |/ / ___/ / (AIM) patricdlc, (ICQ)
> 32918816
> > /_/ |_/_/ /____/
> >
> >
> >
> > ----Original Message Follows----
> > From: Jeremy Salda <roccoguy@mac.com>
> > To: "Dan Bubb" <jdbubb@ix.netcom.com>
> > CC: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > Subject: Re: thoughts on breathing - long
> > Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 12:23:21 -0600
> >
> > kudos on the swiss-cheese airbox info. i've heard
> of everyone doing
> > that, but when i've sat and thought about it, the
> same thing came to
> > mind, you're going to putting hot air into the
> engine, not good, unless
> > you want to put an intercooler between the box and
> TB. what's the
> > address for patrick's site so that i can see his
> mod?
> >
> > jeremy
> >
> >
> > On Friday, November 30, 2001, at 09:54 , Dan Bubb
> wrote:
> >
> >> I read an interesting article about the Audi R8
> direct injection V8
> >> recently
> >> in Race Tech magazine. Although the Direct
> injection engine had up to
> >> 35
> >> ft-lbs more torque than it's predecesor the
> drivers all thought the
> >> engine
> >> had less performance because the power came in
> sooner so there was less
> >> of a
> >> hump to the torque curve.
> >> The lesson here is that making changes to your
> engine will make it FEEL
> >> faster or slower, but this doesn't necessarily
> correlate to whether the
> >> engine is ACTUALLY faster or slower. The butt
> dyno is a liar. You have
> >> to
> >> actually measure to know whether your change was
> effective or not.
> >> Having said that, installing the larger TB will
> increase power somewhat
> >> if
> >> done properly by porting the manifold to match
> it. But, it should
> >> really be
> >> one of the last things you do to your engine
> since it will make little
> >> difference until you've done all the other stuff
> i.e. exhaust, cam, P &
> >> P,
> >> blah, blah. Just installing the TB with no other
> mods will make the
> >> engine
> >> feel stronger since you'll be letting in more air
> for less throttle
> >> foot
> >> movement, but the full throttle power difference
> is negligible.
> >> Colin at TT once told me that you could have an
> 8V 2.0 breath through a
> >> 1.0"
> >> diameter restrictor and it would make no
> difference in power when I
> >> asked
> >> him about the exact same mods you are thinking of
> doing. But, whatever!
> >> Feel
> >> free to bust your ass for 2 hp!
> >> On another note, while everybody's saying how
> much power they're
> >> getting
> >> from swiss cheesing their airbox since they're
> removing that HUGE
> >> intake
> >> restriction, I'd just like to point out that
> using the stock intake
> >> location
> >> (drawing air from the front crossmember) the
> intake air temp is
> >> typically 20
> >> deg hotter than ambient. In stop and go traffic
> it's typically 40-50
> >> deg
> >> hotter than ambient. Sit parked with your engine
> running for 5minutes
> >> and it
> >> will get up to 135 deg! (data from Haltech
> datalogs) NOW, the message
> >> on
> >> this is that anybody that thinks drawing air from
> ANTWHERE in the
> >> engine
> >> compartment (MY holes are only on the FENDER
> side!!!) is a benefit is
> >> NUTS!
> >> The mod that Patrick Bureau has on his website
> about relocating the
> >> inlet to
> >> in front of the radiator is the only good input
> I've seen on this
> >> subject.
> >> Dan
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Colin <cwass99@home.com>
> >> To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 8:14 PM
> >> Subject: thoughts on breathing - long
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>> I've been thinking about how to improve my
> 8v breathing and I
> >>> figured
> >> I'd
> >>> better get opinions before I did something
> permanent and annoying.
> >>> There
> >> are 2
> >>> basic problems to breathing on my stock CIS
> system and they each
> >>> attach
> >>> directly to the air box/fuel distributor
> assembly. The first is the
> >>> teeny
> >>> little pipe that lets air in. I removed the
> nasty little valve that
> >>> was
> >> there
> >>> and re-ran the hose directly from the box to the
> connection in the
> >>> back of
> >> the
> >>> air dam (yes, it stretched that far without
> difficulty and stays put).
> >>> I was thinking, though, that this needs to be
> improved upon. My first
> >> thought
> >>> was to 'swiss cheese' the box, but then I had a
> better idea. If I
> >>> were to
> >> get
> >>> a 2 inch floor drain and cut an appropriate hole
> in the bottom of the
> >>> box,
> >> I
> >>> could attach a second pipe and run it to the
> grill for a bit of a ram
> >>> air
> >>> effect. Done correctly and carefully, it should
> look quite neat and
> >>> tidy.
> >>> I've also considered cutting off the hose
> connection originally there
> >>> and
> >>> replacing it with a 3 inch bit of pipe. Again,
> it should be simple to
> >> make
> >>> this look quite appropriate. Any thoughts or
> comments?
> >>> The second breathing problem I see needing
> addressed is the pipe
> >>> that
> >>> joins the air box to the throttle body. If you
> look closely, you'll
> >> notice
> >>> it's somewhat skinnier in the middle than on the
> ends.
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