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RE: Differences between 8v and 16v

To: "Jason Cammisa" <cammisa@element5.com>, "Scirocco-L" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>, "Brian McGarvey" <brianm@zbt62.eastnet.gatech.edu>
Subject: RE: Differences between 8v and 16v
From: "Neal Tovsen" <sixteen.volt@verizon.net>
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 16:38:06 -0400
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Sender: owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org

Huh? I never heard that before.

Brian, wasn't your white 16v an '87?

I haven't heard of a white 86.5, but then again, I've only seen ONE 86.5 16v
ever. It was red, of course. :)

Neal

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Cammisa [mailto:cammisa@element5.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 4:00 PM
> To: Neal Tovsen; 16V Jason; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> Subject: RE: Differences between 8v and 16v
>
>
> They weren't until 1988, though, now were they? ;)
>
>
> In R/T's defense:
>
> They suck as a magazine -- but:
>          a.  They got the fastest 0-60 time from a 16V Roc (7.7s)
>          b.  They're not psyhic. :)
>
> hehe
> Jason
>
>
>
> At 03:54 PM 8/31/2001 , Neal Tovsen wrote:
> >Of course, R/T also forgot that 16v's were available in White in the USA.
> >
> >Neal
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > > [mailto:owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of 16V Jason
> > > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 10:21 AM
> > > To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > > Subject: Re: Differences between 8v and 16v
> > >
> > >
> > > Rich,
> > >          Some highlights from the magazines below.  For the complete
> > > articles, go to www.scirocco16v.org and click on "Press"
> > >
> > > Jason
> > >
> > >
> > > R/T:
> > > h body-color bumpers, air dam, mirrors, skirts, and cast-alloy
> > > wheels with
> > > sculptured holes that look as though they force cooling air to or
> > > from the
> > > brakes, depending on which side of the car they are no. There's
> > > also a new
> > > radio antenna at the back of the roof, sloping aft like an aircraft
> > > antenna. Colors are limited to red, black, and silver.
> > >
> > > For the 16-valve, the springs are shorter and thus stiffer; the rear
> > > anti-roll bar is larger and shock damping is increased. There's also a
> > > cross-brace between the front suspension arms to increase lateral
> > > rigidity.
> > > Tire size is increased to 185/60HR-14 on 6-in. wheels. Braking
> > > performance
> > > has been improved by fitting 9.4-in. solid rear discs in place of the
> > > standard car's drums, and enlargement to 10.1-in. of its vented
> > > front discs.
> > >
> > > Beneath the new twincam cylinder head, the Scirocco uses Volkswagen's
> > > standard inline-4 modified with greater oil pump capacity and special
> > > piston-cooling oil jets.
> > >
> > > C/D:
> > >
> > > The clutch and the gearbox have both been strengthened,
> though the gear
> > > ratios are largely unchanged (fifth gear has been lowered,
> from 0.89 to
> > > 0.91:1).
> > > All four springs and shocks have been recalibrated, and the
> nose has been
> > > lowered 0.4 inch
> > > Finally, the rear anti-roll bar has been enlarged from 0.8 to
> 1.0 inch in
> > > diameter.
> > >
> > > VW&P:
> > > . The front springs have again been made shorter (by 10 mm) and
> > > stiffer, a
> > > 24 mm rear anti-roll bar has been added, a front lower stress
> bar is now
> > > standard equipment, the shocks have been recalibrated, and the
> > > car now has
> > > four-wheel disc brakes
> > > The exhaust system is stainless steel, which should last far
> longer than
> > > the mid-steel version
> > > Other features that should boost longevity are sodium-filled
> > > exhaust valves
> > > and oil-cooled pistons. As a bonus, the l6V also has the
> larger oil pump
> > > found on the turbo diesel, to help meet the extra lubricating demands.
> > >
> > > MT:
> > > To help put its robust new power-plant to best use, the
> Scirocco 16V GTX
> > > has also received a major suspension revamp. Heavier springs have been
> > > fitted up front, and upgraded shocks reside at each corner. The rear
> > > anti-roll bar diameter has been upped from 20.5 to 24 mm, and
> ride height
> > > lowered 10 mm
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > At 10:56 AM 8/27/2001 , thescirocco@juno.com wrote:
> > > >On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 09:40:19 -0500 "Aaron Ness" <aaron@makuta.com>
> > > >writes:
> > > > > Didn't the big rear wing come on all '85.5+ 'roccos?
> > > >
> > > >Yeah, but I didn't know that was a mid production change, I
> thought it
> > > >was all '85 and up...
> > > >
> > > > > Incidentally, I have one of these wings in my garage that someone
> > > > > can have if they want it.  I'll ship it for $75, or you
> can pick it up
> > > >for
> > > > > free.
> > > > > Columbus, IN.
> > > > >
> > > > > (Yes, I know it doesn't cost $75 to ship it.)
> > > > >
> > > > > Aaron
> > > > > '87 528e
> > > > > '82 Scirocco
> > > > > '70 Beetle
> > > > > '82 Kawasaki GPz550
> > > >
> > > >That would be a pain to properly box up and ship...
> > > >
> > > > > > > -tranny
> > > > > > > -Front rotor size
> > > > > > > -rear discs vs. rear drum
> > > > > > > -factory body kit
> > > > > > > -fuba antenna
> > > > > > > -rear wing
> > > > > > The fuel injection, 16V brain boxes and the engine harness.
> > > > > > 22mm M/cyl
> > > > > > 8000 RPM tach
> > > > > > 4 point lower bar
> > > > > > larger rear anti-swaybar
> > > > > > Black striped taillights (not necessarily a 16V thing)
> > > > > > Blacked out headlight retaining rings
> > > > > > Driver's fender without am antenna hole
> > > > > > Heavier pressure plate and a disc with a larger splined center
> > > > > > The relay shaft has a slight angle to it
> > > > > > Seats
> > > >
> > > >Peter - http://thescirocco.com - Discount Techtonics, Autotech-Quaife
> > > >USA, Magnecor, & Peloquin Dealer -  Bear, DE 19701
> > > >
> > > >'79 Scirocco 16V "Retro"
> > > >'83 GTI "Caged Rabbit"
> > > >'84.5 Scirocco "Oddball"
> > > >'84 GTI  - SciRollers: '79 White Champagne Edition, '84
> Black, '88 Red
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >DO NOT:
> > > >
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