uhm have you ever seen how small those Lupo's are? I rode in one while I was in Germany last year. Small is an understatement. I avoid very small cars. I was just like riding in a Geo metro uck!! Dave 85 Scirocco GTX -- Email problems to: scirocco-l-probs@scirocco.org To unsubscibe send "unsubscribe scirocco-l" in the message to majordomo@scirocco.org