Re: muffler for Toby's 16v

["Bradley Peet" <btpeet@effervescent.com>]

Turbos make great mufflers.  (Seriously!)  The best sounding exhaust I ever
had was when the turbo was on my car.  Smooth, quiet, powerful and you could
actually hear the ENGINE in addition to your own thoughts.

Assuming you don't want or can't afford a turbo, retaining your catalytic
converter helps.  I've run a few different combinations of UltraFlo and
SuperTurbo and found the worst combination for NOISE to be a non-cat system
(header or racing DP) with the UltraFlo.  When using the stock downpipe &
cat, the UltraFlo is not QUIET but it is tolerable even under full load and
high RPM.  Likewise, the tri-Y header and the SuperTurbo muffler was fairly
mellow, not very noisy but with some "spatter" or "raspberries" or whatever
you call it at high RPM.

Right now I'm running a factory downpipe with a 2.5" cat welded onto it.
This goes into a 2.5" system all the way back to an UltraFlo.  The sound is
pretty nice.  Deep mellow tone under most conditions except full throttle,
high RPM and even then there isn't excessive amount of that ricey spattering
sound.

If I were you, Toby, I'd go to Walts and have a SuperTurbo muffler welded
up.  It's a $50 muffler and they shouldn't charge too much for installation.
If you can get out of there for under $100 then it would probably be worth
it to save yourself some grief trying to do it yourself.  I do have a spare
TT center pipe that's a little beat up but still serviceable.  I need to
send the UltraFlo back for exchange, tho, 'cause it developed a rattle.

-Bradley
Alpine White 1988 Scirocco 16V
Cosmos Blue  1981 Scirocco S
R.I.P: '86 Scirocco 16V 2.0 "T"
http://dns.effervescent.com/vw/

>Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 04:40:11 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Anthony Pelletier <vwnuts@yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: muffler for a 16v
>
>Here is my .02 on the whole muffler thing.  I had the
>tt race dp and cat back with the magna flow.  It was
>nice for the first 2 weeks.  I believe the comment I
>made was "is this the exhaust everyone claims is too
>loud?"  In a few short weeks I learned what they were
>complaining about.  All the fiberglass was stuck to
>the back of my car.  The sound is awesome at 7k under
>load. Real intimidating but it is just too loud for
>the street.  I have since changed to a flowmaster(50
>series deltaflow.).  It wasn't too expensice $95.  It
>bolted right on.  The sound is much quiter.  I didn't
>notice any power loss either.  I haven't had any
>trouble with the police since.  The sound is decent it
>has that flowmaster sound-those who have them know
>what I mean.  So It goes like the mastercard
>comericial
>
>Price of a decent sounding muffler $90
>cost to ship                        $5
>Being able to hear yourself think   PRICELESS!


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