I forgot to mention. The other problem with the Lands End products is that they are not supposed to be resold according to Lands End. This is why they allow a 6 hat minimum order and cost $21.40+ ea. Randy Block -- Email problems to: scirocco-l-probs@scirocco.org To unsubscibe send "unsubscribe scirocco-l" in the message to majordomo@scirocco.org