Re: (What is this and...) How about the real thing!

["Armando Pereira" <armando_pereira@hotmail.com>]

You can get the Iltis from the Canadian army just like you can get the 
Humvee from the US army...  You need to look out for those surplus 
auctions... $60,000!  Canadian Dollars I hope!  Even then... Isn't the body 
entirely plastic?

Our governments have a tendancy to over pay suppliers.  Makes it easier to 
divert funds to "covert operations" for the sake of "National Security".

Maybe Noam Chomsky drives a Rocco,  he'd make an interesting list member.




>From: "Phil Miron" <mironp@autobahn.mb.ca>
>To: "Randy B" <scirokn81@email.msn.com>, <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>Subject: Re: (What is this and...) How about the real thing!
>Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 17:04:22 -0600
>
>Yeah, when I was in the CAF we had lots of them, haven't heard if the 
>public
>can get them though, not sure what happens to them when they've had too
>much. Have you ever seen one up close? They have plastic tear-away windows
>(sides) and they are VERY small, I mean VERY small...But for the most part
>they are partially amphibious and around '92 I was told that the Canadian
>Armed Forces paid approx. $60,000 each for them.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Randy B <scirokn81@email.msn.com>
>To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 11:59 AM
>Subject: (What is this and...) How about the real thing!
>
>
> > Any Listers from Europe/Canada ever heard of one of these?
> >
> > Has anyone ever heard of one for sale to the public in Canada?
> > Anywhere in Europe? Why buy a Jeep when you can go
> > off roading in a VW. When I lived in Montana, I used to do this in
> > my 4dr. 79' Rabbit, but got tired of replacing oilpans and oilpumps.
> > Kept tearing those darn CV boots as well.
> >
> > Volkswagen Iltis - Type 183
> >
> > Some Info I found in the following book includes:
> > *Made from 79'-82'
> > *Replaced the Type 181 (VW Thing) for the German Army
> > *Iltis means Polecat in German
> > *Created and built by VW, not some Japanese company.
> > *1700cc (cm3) OHC n/s mounted  in front with 5-speed.
> > *Rear drive with transfer case to front differential for 4X4.
> > *Cost as much as an "S" class Mercedes, or BMW 700 series
> >         when sold new to public in 1981.
> > *With only 4 entries the VW Iltis placed 1st, 2nd, 4th and 9th
> >         overall in the 1980 Paris-Dakar Rally.
> > *All rights and mfg. sold to Bombardier in Quebec, Canada.
> >         and now produced for the Canadian armed forces and the
> >         Belgian army. (Are they available to the public?)
> >
> > Information taken from the following book.
> > Simon Glen. "Volkswagens of the World".
> >     Veloce Publishing PLC. 1999. pp 46-47.
> > Can be found at:
> > http://www.veloce.co.uk/vwworld.htm
> >
> > This is a great reference book for "most" all VW models.
> > Never once anywhere in the book is the MK1 Scirocco
> > mentioned, and only one reference to the Mk2 Scirocco.
> > Go Figure!
> >
> > E-mail me for pictures if any listers would like to see
> > VW's own HMMWV.
> >
> > Randy B.
> > Cosmos 81 Scirocco S - 2.0L 16V
> > (under the knife OSP car)
> > Mars 81 Scirocco S - t t 1847cc
> > (my new CSP car until the other is done)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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