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Re: non-roc:Chipping a Passat 1.8T
The only problem with the triptronic transmission is that it shifts for you once you hit 6000rpm. I test drove one the other day with the sixer - WOW.
Oliver Toronto 88Scirocco8V Slegato
> I can only partially disagree with you Mike. I haven't driven the 5 speed
> Passat but the tiptronic definitely a better ride than the automatic. As
> far as flat out acceleration, I have no basis for comparison but you can
> wind out the gears without flooring the car. Most autos shift too early for
> my taste unless you're gunning it. The tiptronic alleviates that problem
> with no discernable delay from a dead stop. I'm wondering if there's a
> weight factor difference between the auto and stick. If my wife drove a
> 5-speed that's what would be in there, but I think that the tiptronic is a
> good compromise. Anyway, she really digs the beetle and I've started
> teaching her to drive it, so I may end up in the Passat soon.
>
> It seems weird. I've got two new cars outside in the snow now and the 14
> year old roc in the heated garage. On second thought, it's not so weird.
>
>
> - Jan Folkson
>
> '86 16V
> '99 Passat 1.8T
> '00 Beetle GLX 1.8T
>
>
> > From: Mike VanAmburgh <vwvr6r@fiber.net>
> > Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 22:54:56 -0700
> > To: Scirocco <scirocco-L@scirocco.org>
> > Subject: Re: non-roc:Chipping a Passat 1.8T
> >
> > Damn, forgot to finish the reply before sending. :-) I wanted to
> > comment on your Passat vs Beetle statement. I assume your New Beetle is
> > a 5 speed? If yes, that would definitely explain your New Beetle being
> > 'MUCH' quicker than the Passat. The first 1.8T car I test drove at the
> > dealer was a Tiptronic Passat (didn't have manuals at the time in
> > stock), while trying out the 'manual' shifting. To me, it made
> > absolutely no acceleration difference compared to just leaving the thing
> > in automatic. I left that car very disappointed with the 1.8T thinking
> > 'what's the hype?'. I went back a week or so later and went for a spin
> > in a 5 speed 1.8T Passat. The difference is night and day! I was
> > amazed how well the 1.8T moved the ~3100+ pound Passat with the 5 speed.
> > Eventually, my VR6 Jetta will get traded in on a 1.8T Passat. The
> > question is, do I want to wait to see if they will offer 4Motion and 5
> > speed with the 1.8T or just settle for the front wheel drive? I have a
> > big itch to get a Passat. The wife and I both LOVE the new ones,
> > especially since now they put a little design in the hood. Before it
> > was just a big, huge flat thing, now it has the 'raised' area. Sure,
> > call me a freak, but it's a pet peave of mine to look out and see a
> > stylish hood. ;-)
> >
> > I haven't driven a 1.8T New Beetle yet, so can't really say anything on
> > the difference of the auto/5 speed in them, but I would have to bet that
> > you'd find the same results as I did with the Passat.
> >
> > The moral of the story? Tiptronic = glorified automatic. :-)
> >
> > -Mike
> >
> > Jan Folkson wrote:
> >>
> >> According to EC the Turbo Beetle put out 180hp on the dyno. Their
> >> conclusion was that the beetle had the Audi TT chip on board and were going
> >> to report further when they had more info. So far no word. But owning both
> >> the 1.8T Passat and Turbo Beetle, I can tell you that the beetle is much
> >> faster and I mean MUCH. The weight difference is only about 150lbs. and
> >> would probably not account for that big a difference. Also the Passat is an
> >> automatic but I always drive it with the tiptronic. Not sure if not having
> >> a clutch would account for the difference either.
> >>
> >> BTW, Shannon, how much did the chip cost and does it mess with the warranty?
> >>
> >> - Jan Folkson
> >>
> >> '86 16V
> >> '99 Passat 1.8T
> >> '00 Beetle GLX 1.8T
> >>
> >>
> >>> From: Mike VanAmburgh <vwvr6r@fiber.net>
> >>> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 00:26:03 -0700
> >>> To: Scirocco <scirocco-L@scirocco.org>
> >>> Subject: Re: non-roc:Chipping a Passat 1.8T
> >>>
> >>> The last Eclipse turbo was running 210 hp. With a Garrett chip, the
> >>> 1.8T puts out torque from hell (more than the Eclipse). The Eclipses
> >>> have turbo lag and the Passat 1.8T has very little. The powerband on
> >>> the 1.8T is way better than the Eclipse turbo. For more info on Garrett
> >>> chips, check out <http://www.giacusa.com>.
> >>>
> >>> For example, a stock 150 hp 1.8T moves the aerodynamically-challenged
> >>> ~2900 pound New Beetle in 15.9 seconds. Remember the comparo against
> >>> the 160 hp ~2600 pound Civic Si? The Beetle kicked it's ass with more
> >>> weight and less hp.
> >>>
> >>> -Mike
> >>>
> >>> Timothy A Reed wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, 31 Jan 2000 00:24:35 EST Testastrega@aol.com writes:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Put the garret chip in my roomates 1.8T today. Job took all of 5
> >>>> minutes for
> >>>>> 47hp. The car hauls major ASS! I was getting groceries (yeah right) and
> >>>> raced
> >>>>> a older Mitsu Eclipse turbo....hehe..I smoke his ass through every
> >>>> gear! Wish
> >>>>> I could just plug in 47hp in the damn roc....
> >>>>
> >>>> The 1.8T motor has 150 hp stock. 150+47=197. The Mitsubishi Eclipse has
> >>>> (I think) 190 or 195 hp and is a lighter car (unless the AWD system adds
> >>>> significant weight, but it also provides better traction). The way I see
> >>>> it, the Eclipse should have won. What am I missing? Torque curve of the
> >>>> new turbo motor, perhaps?
> >>>>
> >>>> -Timothy A. Reed, Esq.
> >>>> t.a.reed.esq@juno.com
> >>>> Never be lacking in zeal, but keep your spiritual fervor, serving the
> >>>> Lord.
> >>>> Romans 12:11
> >>>>
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