I just took the cylinder on my Fox to the dealer and he made a key by sticking a blank in and seeing which tumblers poked out. If there's a # on the handle, that would be even easier. I thought there was a # on the cylinder, too. Tom -- Email problems to: scirocco-l-probs@scirocco.org To unsubscibe send "unsubscribe scirocco-l" in the message to majordomo@scirocco.org