RE: California front plates - yikes!

["Brian Honnold" <bhonnold@pac-cap.com>]

<x-charset iso-8859-1>Ummmmm,

All the cameras installed here in Sacramento county are automated, if the
light turns red, the camera is tripped by a motion sensing device.  One
camera takes a picture of the driver and front plate and another other the
rear plate.

Which leaves a lot of skepticism for the program as a whole because of the
lack of front plates and the fact that the Owner of the car recieves a
ticket.......not the driver.

There is no cop in a little room "watching" the 10 intersections that are
currently on the test program for this system.  I imagine that they have
some clerk reviewing pictures at the end of the day with a magnifying glass.

There are HUGE signs at all the test intesection stating that it is
controlled by the cameras....right next to the sign that states that it is
now a $250 offense to run a red light.

You might not see a cop, but you would have to be blind not to see the signs
or notice that camera on top of the red light.

Brian Honnold
'78 Ragtop (No plate, lotsa tickets, no cop ever mentioned it)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Majordomo [mailto:majord@neubayern.net]On Behalf Of Brad Sheridan
> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 11:59 AM
> To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> Subject: Re: California front plates - yikes!
>
>
> At 01:33 PM 10/5/99 -0500, you wrote:
> >
> >I haven't been following most of this thread, so forgive me if I'm
> >missing something, but I just had to get this out there:
> >
> >Anybody read _1984_ yet? If you haven't, you should. Turns out that it
> >probably should have been titled 2014, but it is definitely happening. My
> >life is already run by computers and people I never see and will never
> >meet. Making it legal for computers or remote operators to hand out
> >traffic tickits when no human is present on the scene is rather
> >disturbing to me. At what point will we be stripped of any sense of
> >responsibility to "do the right thing" because it *is* the right thing,
> >not because every "improper" action will immediately result in
> punishment
> >by some computer or person with near-omnipotency.
>
> Uh, much of society already lacks the capability to do the right thing
> because it is the right thing. Or do I just have an extremely
> negative view
> of people? :)
>
>    If the driver decides not to run a light because a cop is there, he is
> not doing the right thing because it is the right thing to do,
> hes doing it
> because he doesn't want to get punished. Whether its a live cop, or one at
> a desk a few miles away, its a fear of punishment that keeps the driver
> from breaking the law, and endangering lives. Are you saying we should get
> rid of police, as they take away our responsiblity to do the right thing
> because it is the right thing? All the cameras do is make one cop able to
> watch alot of intersections, as opposed to just sitting and
> waiting at one.
> Either with the cop or the camera, you are being watched.
>
>
> Brad
>
>
>
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