Discussion on how to resolve -->RE: Update on car not starting...(long!) LONGER

["Mark Madison" <mmadison@aracnet.com>]

<x-charset iso-8859-1>I have not done this update.. I know that new dimensions sells something
called MOWA wiring..   meaning.. massive overkill wiring accessories.
expensive though....
I would bet you can just take your grounds off of their mounts.. clean them
really really good.. see if you can get some heavy guage wire or something.
I would even bet you could just run some kind of heavy guage wire from your
negative battery terminal to your starter bolt or something....

next time do a test.. take a jumper cable.. connect it to your negative
battery terminal .. then connect that same lead to the bolts that hold the
starter to the engine.. *ensuring that it will make good contact*
or just the casing for the starter.. but that might be harder to attach it
to.. then give it a crank.... if it cranks over.. which I bet it will...
then you have found the culprit.

remember.. the postive lead from the battery goes straight to the starter...
why
can't the negative lead go to the starter too?...  I know you can buy these
funky
ground straps at any auto parts store with a couple of smaller leads from
the
post clamp.....  I'd say that would be an inexpensive way of solving the
problem
as well.


-----Original Message-----
From: Sal Guzzo [mailto:yu129742@yorku.ca]
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 1999 10:33 PM
To: Mark Madison
Subject: RE: Update on car not starting...(long!)


Yup that's basically right.  What would I need to update the grounds.  Like
 have you done this job before (updating the straps, etc)  What do I need
and what do I do?  thanks

Sal

At 07:17 PM 14/11/99 -0800, you wrote:
>Ok Sal, let me get this straight.
>You can start the car cold... and it fires up and runs.
>drive it around for a while.. get it hot and then you try
>to start it again and it won't run?
>is the starter turning at all??
>
>If not, I will bet that its your grounding straps.. check them
>update them .....  I have seen this before....
>with failing, or faulty grounding straps you can see a higher
>resistance in the line when your car is hot, other than your
>car being cold....
>
>there should be a strap from your negative battery terminal
>to your transmission and from your tranny to your car in a junction
>above the tranny on the mount.. from there it goes to the body
>and other places I can't remember...  VW made a mistake with these older
>cars and I can tell you the ground sucks.
>
>Mark Madison
>85 8v Scirocco
>


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