ya hey how can you tell if the clutch is going ... And when i start my car it will die if i dont give it gas and get it up to about 4K in RPMs what would cause something like that Mark 84 rocco -- To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe scirocco-l" to majordomo@scirocco.org. If you experience other problems, email: scirocco-l-probs@scirocco.org